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		<title>By: Good evaluation of Obama and foreign policy &#171; Later On</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-6060</link>
		<dc:creator>Good evaluation of Obama and foreign policy &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] President Obama’s recent visit with Latin American leaders as a “contrition” and &quot;apology&quot; tour. But a more accurate tag would be “accountability” tour, and it’s long [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] President Obama’s recent visit with Latin American leaders as a “contrition” and &quot;apology&quot; tour. But a more accurate tag would be “accountability” tour, and it’s long [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Notes on the American Character &#171; Just Above Sunset</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-5928</link>
		<dc:creator>Notes on the American Character &#171; Just Above Sunset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So Obama attends the Summit of American States and you get Pat Buchanan in the American Conservative saying this: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Apt &#124; R. Justin Shepherd &#124; IN 3RDS</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-5915</link>
		<dc:creator>Apt &#124; R. Justin Shepherd &#124; IN 3RDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] belittling President Obama’s recent visit with Latin American leaders as a “contrition” and “apology” tour. But a more accurate tag would be “accountability” tour, and it’s long overdue. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] belittling President Obama’s recent visit with Latin American leaders as a “contrition” and “apology” tour. But a more accurate tag would be “accountability” tour, and it’s long overdue. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph M</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-5906</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for Pat B.

Imagin how our econmy would have been if he had been elected president instead of either of the Bush&#039;s.

Of course, our political discourse needs him now more than ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for Pat B.</p>
<p>Imagin how our econmy would have been if he had been elected president instead of either of the Bush&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Of course, our political discourse needs him now more than ever.</p>
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		<title>By: JJW</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-5878</link>
		<dc:creator>JJW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Buchanan:

Just about the time I start to warm up to your more genuine expression of conservative (vs. &quot;Conservative&quot; ... and heaven save us all from &quot;NeoConservative&quot;) ethos, you get on a rant about something wrongheaded or, worse, silly.

Let&#039;s start with one or two social and cultural - and political - truths.

- Real tough guys don&#039;t have to pose.

- Jingoism is not patriotism.

Guys like Gingrich, presuming their pontifications to be sincere, are cowards. They are fearful that failure to attack that with which they disagree implies weakness. So they weave arguments of justification for &quot;preemptive war&quot; instead of just calling it a sucker punch; and, demonize people with a calmer - sometimes more cold-blooded - demeanor as &quot;unpatriotic&quot; or &quot;appeasers.&quot;

I believe, in fact I&#039;m sure, that you are far too intelligent and experienced not to recognize Obama&#039;s sarcasm towards Ortega, et al. for what it was.  So please quit pandering to ideologues and fools whose loyalty to conservatism is dependent on belief in a liberal Bogeyman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Buchanan:</p>
<p>Just about the time I start to warm up to your more genuine expression of conservative (vs. &#8220;Conservative&#8221; &#8230; and heaven save us all from &#8220;NeoConservative&#8221;) ethos, you get on a rant about something wrongheaded or, worse, silly.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with one or two social and cultural &#8211; and political &#8211; truths.</p>
<p>- Real tough guys don&#8217;t have to pose.</p>
<p>- Jingoism is not patriotism.</p>
<p>Guys like Gingrich, presuming their pontifications to be sincere, are cowards. They are fearful that failure to attack that with which they disagree implies weakness. So they weave arguments of justification for &#8220;preemptive war&#8221; instead of just calling it a sucker punch; and, demonize people with a calmer &#8211; sometimes more cold-blooded &#8211; demeanor as &#8220;unpatriotic&#8221; or &#8220;appeasers.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe, in fact I&#8217;m sure, that you are far too intelligent and experienced not to recognize Obama&#8217;s sarcasm towards Ortega, et al. for what it was.  So please quit pandering to ideologues and fools whose loyalty to conservatism is dependent on belief in a liberal Bogeyman.</p>
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		<title>By: hankest</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-5854</link>
		<dc:creator>hankest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, our pointless invasions/occupations of Central American nations, especially Nicaragua, were very helpful to those people.

Somoza rocked, and really was excellent at making sure US aid went to his poor.  

Pat, i love you man, but you&#039;re really out on a limb when you defend US policies in Latin America as being all good for Latin Americans.

As for Obama&#039;s reaction, it thought it was perfect, as someone else said &quot;grown up.&quot;  I wish Bush realized that&#039;s the best way to deal with these clowns, not but whiney outrage, but by calm &quot;yeah whatever&quot; attitudes.     

Example, remember when Chavez effectively called Bush Satan at the UN a few years back?  If, rather than whining, Bush said something like &quot;some democrats in the US would consider that an insult against the devil&quot;  it would have made a fool of Chavez.  That&#039;s how Reagen would have handled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, our pointless invasions/occupations of Central American nations, especially Nicaragua, were very helpful to those people.</p>
<p>Somoza rocked, and really was excellent at making sure US aid went to his poor.  </p>
<p>Pat, i love you man, but you&#8217;re really out on a limb when you defend US policies in Latin America as being all good for Latin Americans.</p>
<p>As for Obama&#8217;s reaction, it thought it was perfect, as someone else said &#8220;grown up.&#8221;  I wish Bush realized that&#8217;s the best way to deal with these clowns, not but whiney outrage, but by calm &#8220;yeah whatever&#8221; attitudes.     </p>
<p>Example, remember when Chavez effectively called Bush Satan at the UN a few years back?  If, rather than whining, Bush said something like &#8220;some democrats in the US would consider that an insult against the devil&#8221;  it would have made a fool of Chavez.  That&#8217;s how Reagen would have handled it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Byers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Byers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article from Pat Buchanan.
Let every man&#039;s sin sit on his own head. Yet the american people have nothing to apologize for morally in relations with mankind.
Yes errors of their trusted elites brought injustice and failure. Yet the American man has never done anything wrong as a identity where motives or character were involved. Yes the segregated identities in the boundaries of America but not the good old Yankee or Southerner.

These bitter comments from the losers of the cold war should satisfy one at how crushing it is to them to have lost. Excellent.
I believe America has been on the wrong side in the Israel/Arab conflict by and large. yet its not America but instead small circles of decisionmakers influenced by other small circles of agitators.
If the world had truth guiding it then they would never accept some groveling President badmouthing his people.
I am Canadian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article from Pat Buchanan.<br />
Let every man&#8217;s sin sit on his own head. Yet the american people have nothing to apologize for morally in relations with mankind.<br />
Yes errors of their trusted elites brought injustice and failure. Yet the American man has never done anything wrong as a identity where motives or character were involved. Yes the segregated identities in the boundaries of America but not the good old Yankee or Southerner.</p>
<p>These bitter comments from the losers of the cold war should satisfy one at how crushing it is to them to have lost. Excellent.<br />
I believe America has been on the wrong side in the Israel/Arab conflict by and large. yet its not America but instead small circles of decisionmakers influenced by other small circles of agitators.<br />
If the world had truth guiding it then they would never accept some groveling President badmouthing his people.<br />
I am Canadian.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracey, how you reached your conclusion from the one example I gave is beyond me, but in any case you are dead wrong; I agreed with many of Pat Buchanan&#039;s criticisms of Clinton.  That said, what is puzzling to me is why Pat seems so solicitous of Russian sensitivities, for example, and wants Putin (who is consistently and vocally anti-American) treated with great respect, and yet doesn&#039;t seem to understand why Obama wouldn&#039;t stage a grandstanding walkout in our own hemisphere.  In any case, as an American myself, I felt quite well represented by Obama&#039;s grace, despite the temptations offered for him to descend to the level of idiots like Chavez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracey, how you reached your conclusion from the one example I gave is beyond me, but in any case you are dead wrong; I agreed with many of Pat Buchanan&#8217;s criticisms of Clinton.  That said, what is puzzling to me is why Pat seems so solicitous of Russian sensitivities, for example, and wants Putin (who is consistently and vocally anti-American) treated with great respect, and yet doesn&#8217;t seem to understand why Obama wouldn&#8217;t stage a grandstanding walkout in our own hemisphere.  In any case, as an American myself, I felt quite well represented by Obama&#8217;s grace, despite the temptations offered for him to descend to the level of idiots like Chavez.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Tracey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winston,
It sounds like you agreed with PJB over the years when he criticized Repub&#039;s and disagreed with him when he turned his critical eye on Dem&#039;s.

Someone in the soup above mentioned that the anti-Americanism was a merely a show for respective leaders&#039; domestic audiences.  In these settings, the US President is also speaking to a domestic audience, and it is listening.

Sure, shaking the hand of someone who claims the US as an enemy, or talking collegially in private meetings, does get the job done.  But what does silence or snarky dismissal of anti-American theater say to the nation you are representing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston,<br />
It sounds like you agreed with PJB over the years when he criticized Repub&#8217;s and disagreed with him when he turned his critical eye on Dem&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Someone in the soup above mentioned that the anti-Americanism was a merely a show for respective leaders&#8217; domestic audiences.  In these settings, the US President is also speaking to a domestic audience, and it is listening.</p>
<p>Sure, shaking the hand of someone who claims the US as an enemy, or talking collegially in private meetings, does get the job done.  But what does silence or snarky dismissal of anti-American theater say to the nation you are representing?</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/04/20/the-apologists/comment-page-1/#comment-5844</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gus, here is the problem with liberals. First, there are war-hawk neoliberals just like there are war-hawk neoconservatives. Second, their utopian desire to label and classify every person as if they are an object, plant or animal species in order to mathmatically create some sort of utopian society where all is fair and free has accomplished little more than a society of victimization, a dismantling of centrist and mainstream christianity, a dismantling of african american society, a society that has no moral compass on euthanasia, birth control, abortion, reproductive rights for both genders, etc. Lastly, even the social justice movement of democrats and lefties gets ossified by unions from providing cheap and efficient services for the masses to becoming political patronage machines for party members....where school boards are controlled by teachers unions, government and political parties are controlled by civil servant unions...and escalating costs are just legislated onto the taxpayer...with no efficiency to be had.

Its not a question of whether we should be a moral and a christian nation with a social safety net and social justice but the democratic/liberal way of doing it has been demonstrated to be the long term genocide of western civilization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gus, here is the problem with liberals. First, there are war-hawk neoliberals just like there are war-hawk neoconservatives. Second, their utopian desire to label and classify every person as if they are an object, plant or animal species in order to mathmatically create some sort of utopian society where all is fair and free has accomplished little more than a society of victimization, a dismantling of centrist and mainstream christianity, a dismantling of african american society, a society that has no moral compass on euthanasia, birth control, abortion, reproductive rights for both genders, etc. Lastly, even the social justice movement of democrats and lefties gets ossified by unions from providing cheap and efficient services for the masses to becoming political patronage machines for party members&#8230;.where school boards are controlled by teachers unions, government and political parties are controlled by civil servant unions&#8230;and escalating costs are just legislated onto the taxpayer&#8230;with no efficiency to be had.</p>
<p>Its not a question of whether we should be a moral and a christian nation with a social safety net and social justice but the democratic/liberal way of doing it has been demonstrated to be the long term genocide of western civilization.</p>
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