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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lone Wolf Tickets by Dennis Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/06/lone-wolf-tickets/#comment-11094</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me. I have trouble keeping up with the growing list of prohibitions. But thanks for making me aware that noticing a striking physical resemblance to the president is forbidden. Where do I go for my self-criticism and rehabilitation session? Are they like AA meetings now? My name is Dennis, and I'm a skeptaholic.
&lt;i&gt;Hi Dennis!&lt;/i&gt;
Zoom zoom.

Kidding aside, ZZ, I'm not proposing someone use the massacre to promote the (Obama supported) extension of the "lone wolf" provision, but suggesting that someone likely will, after an indecently short interval. 
If you were familiar with the magazine and its "scum" (charming devil you!) you might (&lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt;) have picked up on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me. I have trouble keeping up with the growing list of prohibitions. But thanks for making me aware that noticing a striking physical resemblance to the president is forbidden. Where do I go for my self-criticism and rehabilitation session? Are they like AA meetings now? My name is Dennis, and I&#8217;m a skeptaholic.<br />
<i>Hi Dennis!</i><br />
Zoom zoom.</p>
<p>Kidding aside, ZZ, I&#8217;m not proposing someone use the massacre to promote the (Obama supported) extension of the &#8220;lone wolf&#8221; provision, but suggesting that someone likely will, after an indecently short interval.<br />
If you were familiar with the magazine and its &#8220;scum&#8221; (charming devil you!) you might (<i>might</i>) have picked up on that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lone Wolf Tickets by Zoomie Zee</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/06/lone-wolf-tickets/#comment-11093</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoomie Zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys really take the cake.  Using a tragedy like a police shooting to promote a political agenda.  Comparing this dirtbag to Obama, really?  I thought I had seen it all from you right wing scum, but I guess I hadn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys really take the cake.  Using a tragedy like a police shooting to promote a political agenda.  Comparing this dirtbag to Obama, really?  I thought I had seen it all from you right wing scum, but I guess I hadn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grand Old Populists by tz</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/05/gop/#comment-11082</link>
		<dc:creator>tz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"What has the outreach to Chavez, Castro and the Ayatollah produced?"

Little or nothing, which considering what spurning Iran's offer through the swiss, the stovepiped intelligence that got us into Iraq, our belligerence via NATO to Russia and various other things you probably could name better than I produced, is a huge step in the right direction.

The bleeding on the foreign front has stopped.  Fewer self-inflicted wounds.  Some are even starting to heal.

Or as the Hippocratic oath says, "First, do no harm".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What has the outreach to Chavez, Castro and the Ayatollah produced?&#8221;</p>
<p>Little or nothing, which considering what spurning Iran&#8217;s offer through the swiss, the stovepiped intelligence that got us into Iraq, our belligerence via NATO to Russia and various other things you probably could name better than I produced, is a huge step in the right direction.</p>
<p>The bleeding on the foreign front has stopped.  Fewer self-inflicted wounds.  Some are even starting to heal.</p>
<p>Or as the Hippocratic oath says, &#8220;First, do no harm&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grand Old Populists by Adam Rurik</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/05/gop/#comment-11079</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Rurik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Middle East "peace process" should remain "moribund." It's not America's job to wet-nurse those who refuse to work for peace themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Middle East &#8220;peace process&#8221; should remain &#8220;moribund.&#8221; It&#8217;s not America&#8217;s job to wet-nurse those who refuse to work for peace themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking about the Mainstream Media by Tony J</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/05/thinking-about-the-mainstream-media/#comment-11077</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeebus Christ, Oskar. Are you contracted to play the "You know I'm Conservative, but wouldn't you agree this might be an issue" role here? I mean, Joe the Not-Plumber? Really? You had to sink - that - low on the conservative food chain to get a non-aggressive spark out of your potential audience? Doesn't that sting?

  Truth to tell, the American Media lost any pretence of being 'Liberal' back in the 1980s, and are now at a stage where the "No, really, I can spin this monumental fuck-up as actually good for the GOP and bad news for Democrats, just watch me!" conventional wisdom they pump out has driven away the majority of people who - want - actual fact-based news, while acting as a gateway drug for the minority who need to hear how right they are all the time, and so are losing them to Fox News, where the crazy is uncut and has no nasty reality to spoil the taste. 

  Very sad, but instructive. And they'd still be getting away with it, if it wasn't for those pesky bloggers and their addiction to things they can prove by the simple expedient of pointing at a headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeebus Christ, Oskar. Are you contracted to play the &#8220;You know I&#8217;m Conservative, but wouldn&#8217;t you agree this might be an issue&#8221; role here? I mean, Joe the Not-Plumber? Really? You had to sink - that - low on the conservative food chain to get a non-aggressive spark out of your potential audience? Doesn&#8217;t that sting?</p>
<p>  Truth to tell, the American Media lost any pretence of being &#8216;Liberal&#8217; back in the 1980s, and are now at a stage where the &#8220;No, really, I can spin this monumental fuck-up as actually good for the GOP and bad news for Democrats, just watch me!&#8221; conventional wisdom they pump out has driven away the majority of people who - want - actual fact-based news, while acting as a gateway drug for the minority who need to hear how right they are all the time, and so are losing them to Fox News, where the crazy is uncut and has no nasty reality to spoil the taste. </p>
<p>  Very sad, but instructive. And they&#8217;d still be getting away with it, if it wasn&#8217;t for those pesky bloggers and their addiction to things they can prove by the simple expedient of pointing at a headline.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Parochialism and Conservatives by Tony J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an axe to grind? WTF?

  Voters in NY-23, had an election day choice between a Democrat who supports Obama's agenda and a third-party candidate espousing the kind of conservative ideology you wholeheartedy agree with, backed by a menagerie of conservative figures (including a former VP candidate) who made a - very - big deal about this being just the first race in a campaign to purge the Party of those considered ideologically impure and oppose everything Obama-related on general principle. 

  No one thought there was a chance that Owens would ever win that seat. I didn't, you didn't. The whole point of choosing a safe GOP seat like NY-23 was that the far-right conservative Base would triumph if they drove out the official GOP candidate and left the reliably conservative voters of the district with no option but to cast their votes for their guy.  

  That was how the MSM was covering this story.Had Hoffman won, it would have been presented as proof that Obama's policies were so extreme that he was losing moderate Republicans and Independents to a resurgent conservative movement. Palin, Armey and the like would have been glued to those morning show couches, and NY-23 would have been the big story for a week. 

  But the conservative lost, badly, as moderate Republicans swapped over in droves to the Democratic camp. In a place where Republicans haven't lost an election since the Civil-War. 

  That's a - massive - political story right there, however eager you are to pretend otherwise. One that would have been hammered 24/7 on the talk-shows and in the OpEd pages of the MSM if the moderates had been Democrats and the third-party had consisted of far-left liberals. The lede would have been that extremists on the left were destroying the Democratic Party in a crusade for ideological purity, and no Democrat Congresscritter would have been able to leave their office without facing a barrage of microphones and demands for their opinion on what this meant for the future of the party.

  But since that wasn't the case, and the result turned out to be - very - bad news for the GOP, what do we hear? Crickets. Very somber crickets. No one is interested anymore. Which is pretty damned odd for a 'Liberal Media' that goes out of its way to make conservatives look bad, isn't it? Really strange that the ideologically blinkered hacks you're absolutely certain you remember lying through their teeth in order to make Obama look electable last year wouldn't use the NY-23 result to drown out any coverage of the Gubernatorial elections you now suddenly find so important and interesting?

  There's reality, and there's the spin the Conservative Media are putting on it. You're making yourself dizzy trying to reconcile the two by pretending that the MSM just isn't conservative enough - not - to be liberal. It's sad. As sad as the fact that this thread is about to go under the fold.

  It's been illuminating chatting with you. Hope you stay well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an axe to grind? WTF?</p>
<p>  Voters in NY-23, had an election day choice between a Democrat who supports Obama&#8217;s agenda and a third-party candidate espousing the kind of conservative ideology you wholeheartedy agree with, backed by a menagerie of conservative figures (including a former VP candidate) who made a - very - big deal about this being just the first race in a campaign to purge the Party of those considered ideologically impure and oppose everything Obama-related on general principle. </p>
<p>  No one thought there was a chance that Owens would ever win that seat. I didn&#8217;t, you didn&#8217;t. The whole point of choosing a safe GOP seat like NY-23 was that the far-right conservative Base would triumph if they drove out the official GOP candidate and left the reliably conservative voters of the district with no option but to cast their votes for their guy.  </p>
<p>  That was how the MSM was covering this story.Had Hoffman won, it would have been presented as proof that Obama&#8217;s policies were so extreme that he was losing moderate Republicans and Independents to a resurgent conservative movement. Palin, Armey and the like would have been glued to those morning show couches, and NY-23 would have been the big story for a week. </p>
<p>  But the conservative lost, badly, as moderate Republicans swapped over in droves to the Democratic camp. In a place where Republicans haven&#8217;t lost an election since the Civil-War. </p>
<p>  That&#8217;s a - massive - political story right there, however eager you are to pretend otherwise. One that would have been hammered 24/7 on the talk-shows and in the OpEd pages of the MSM if the moderates had been Democrats and the third-party had consisted of far-left liberals. The lede would have been that extremists on the left were destroying the Democratic Party in a crusade for ideological purity, and no Democrat Congresscritter would have been able to leave their office without facing a barrage of microphones and demands for their opinion on what this meant for the future of the party.</p>
<p>  But since that wasn&#8217;t the case, and the result turned out to be - very - bad news for the GOP, what do we hear? Crickets. Very somber crickets. No one is interested anymore. Which is pretty damned odd for a &#8216;Liberal Media&#8217; that goes out of its way to make conservatives look bad, isn&#8217;t it? Really strange that the ideologically blinkered hacks you&#8217;re absolutely certain you remember lying through their teeth in order to make Obama look electable last year wouldn&#8217;t use the NY-23 result to drown out any coverage of the Gubernatorial elections you now suddenly find so important and interesting?</p>
<p>  There&#8217;s reality, and there&#8217;s the spin the Conservative Media are putting on it. You&#8217;re making yourself dizzy trying to reconcile the two by pretending that the MSM just isn&#8217;t conservative enough - not - to be liberal. It&#8217;s sad. As sad as the fact that this thread is about to go under the fold.</p>
<p>  It&#8217;s been illuminating chatting with you. Hope you stay well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking about the Mainstream Media by Barney Rebble</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/05/thinking-about-the-mainstream-media/#comment-11074</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Rebble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I for one am deeply unhappy that Guy on Fox News has stated that our President is not a REAL President.

Before we charge him with high-treason, we need to make sure we have given him a fair chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I for one am deeply unhappy that Guy on Fox News has stated that our President is not a REAL President.</p>
<p>Before we charge him with high-treason, we need to make sure we have given him a fair chance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The American Way of Abandonment by Paata Chkheidze</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/03/the-american-way-of-abandonment/#comment-11073</link>
		<dc:creator>Paata Chkheidze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is terrible, if we have to anticipate the same future for Georgia.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking about the Mainstream Media by NxG</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/11/05/thinking-about-the-mainstream-media/#comment-11072</link>
		<dc:creator>NxG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is in fact true that Joe the plumber can’t cast as a reporter for Israel Palestinian conflict. But if the clear bias of the “MSM” towards this conflict continues, people in search of truth will look for other means, which can even be a report by Joe the plumber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is in fact true that Joe the plumber can’t cast as a reporter for Israel Palestinian conflict. But if the clear bias of the “MSM” towards this conflict continues, people in search of truth will look for other means, which can even be a report by Joe the plumber.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Flatulent and Crowded with Mental Garbage by Dennis Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God, he's right! Billions of taxpayer dollars handed over to political allies, the proven corrupt and incompetent, with little or no oversight, in desperation. Remember those pallets of cash bound for Iraq? Too bad we have no equal image to represent the Stimulus/Bailout regime. Years from now I imagine I'll have trouble separating the two in my fading memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God, he&#8217;s right! Billions of taxpayer dollars handed over to political allies, the proven corrupt and incompetent, with little or no oversight, in desperation. Remember those pallets of cash bound for Iraq? Too bad we have no equal image to represent the Stimulus/Bailout regime. Years from now I imagine I&#8217;ll have trouble separating the two in my fading memory.</p>
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