Comments on: Married to the State http://www.amconmag.com/blog @TAC Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:07:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Sad Dad http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-13050 Sad Dad Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:25:24 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-13050 To Mindi Wilhem, You are dead wrong! Government has everything to do with it. You need to do further research and you will see what's happening to men is no accident. To Ben Siegfried, What you are fogetting is women have to do something bad like have an addiction or arrest records or somthing thing like that to lose custody of their children, but on the other hand men don't have to do anything at all to lose custody just being men. This is true you need to do a little research to. I'm sure some women do get the short end of the stick on occassion but you can not compare that to the short end of the stick that men get at all, it's not even in the same ball park. To Mindi Wilhem,

You are dead wrong! Government has everything to do with it. You need to do further research and you will see what’s happening to men is no accident.

To Ben Siegfried,

What you are fogetting is women have to do something bad like have an addiction or arrest records or somthing thing like that to lose custody of their children, but on the other hand men don’t have to do anything at all to lose custody just being men. This is true you need to do a little research to. I’m sure some women do get the short end of the stick on occassion but you can not compare that to the short end of the stick that men get at all, it’s not even in the same ball park.

]]> By: bob http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-11933 bob Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:24:33 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-11933 http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&sl=en&tl=vi# http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&sl=en&tl=vi#

]]> By: Ben Siegfried http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-11920 Ben Siegfried Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:54:15 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-11920 The only thing I find troubling with Baskervilles messages is that it focuses too much on the Father being the victim. From what I'm seeing out here in California, both genders are being trampled on. I wish Baskerville would shift the focus of Fathers being trampled on to Families being trampled on. I'm part of a group out here in San Diego, and half of the people are Women who are being trampled on by the system just as Men are, it is shocking, and we have a female Supervising Judge. I agree that Men get the short end of the stick most often but it's not like all Women are getting it easy. Moreover, I see from the stories that I hear firsthand that it's all about the money, the money, the money. The looting professionals do whatever it takes to keep the fight going, to keep looting the cash from both parents, ultimately Families are the victim. They target those who have money and milk them for all they can, and term them "high-conflict" cases. The only thing I find troubling with Baskervilles messages is that it focuses too much on the Father being the victim. From what I’m seeing out here in California, both genders are being trampled on. I wish Baskerville would shift the focus of Fathers being trampled on to Families being trampled on. I’m part of a group out here in San Diego, and half of the people are Women who are being trampled on by the system just as Men are, it is shocking, and we have a female Supervising Judge. I agree that Men get the short end of the stick most often but it’s not like all Women are getting it easy. Moreover, I see from the stories that I hear firsthand that it’s all about the money, the money, the money. The looting professionals do whatever it takes to keep the fight going, to keep looting the cash from both parents, ultimately Families are the victim. They target those who have money and milk them for all they can, and term them “high-conflict” cases.

]]> By: Guesswhotoo6 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-11919 Guesswhotoo6 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:32:39 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-11919 The State is a corporation and benefits from it's work at enslavement of the modern family. The acts of the state are well highlighted in this article. However, what is missed is the fact that all this misery is by our own agreement and via contracts we accepted which allowed the state corp into our families and lives. We are being duped by a corporation operating under public policy. Unfortunately our ignorance is also our undoing. The recent book, "The Red Amendment" by LB Bork outlines just how things go wrong (14th Amendment). Start protecting your rights and stop making deals with the state! The State is a corporation and benefits from it’s work at enslavement of the modern family. The acts of the state are well highlighted in this article. However, what is missed is the fact that all this misery is by our own agreement and via contracts we accepted which allowed the state corp into our families and lives. We are being duped by a corporation operating under public policy. Unfortunately our ignorance is also our undoing. The recent book, “The Red Amendment” by LB Bork outlines just how things go wrong (14th Amendment). Start protecting your rights and stop making deals with the state!

]]> By: Paul M. Clements http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-11917 Paul M. Clements Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:35:21 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-11917 The detriment to society of the current anti-family court system is very clear. Note the following: SINGLE MOTHER HOMES 37.8% of single mothers are divorced, 41% never married, and only 6.5% widows. Brookings Institute, “Assessing the Impact of Welfare Reform on Single Mothers”, Part 2, 3/22/04 “The strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison, is that they were raised by a single parent”. C.C. Harper and S.S. McLanahan, “Father Absence and Youth Incarceration”, Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Assoc., San Francisco, CA, 1998 In 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997 72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323 70% of teen births occur to girls in single mother homes. David T. Lykken, “Reconstructing Fathers”, American Psychologist 55, 681,681, 2000 70% of drop-outs, and 70% of teen suicides come from single mother homes. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents,” IMPRIMIS 26, N0. 6, June 1997 70% of runaways, 70% of juvenile delinquents, and 70% of Child murderers, come from single mother homes. Richard E. Redding, “It’s Really About Sex”, Duke Univ. Journal of Gender Law and Policy, Jan.1, 2008 “Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous, and more likely to end up divorced.” Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, No.6, June, 1997 “After controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.” Progressive Policy Institute, 1990, quoted by David Blankenhorn, “Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem,” New York, Harper Perennial, 1996, p.31 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teen pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers, 80% of all prison inmates, and 90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes. Bob Ray Sanders, “Hey Y’all, Let’s Fill The Hall (Of Fame), Ft. Worth Star Telegram, Oct.28,2007 Mona Charen, “More Good News Than Bad?”, Washington Times, Mar.16, 2001 (citing Bill Bennett, “The Index of Leading Cultural Indicators: American society at the end of the 20th Century., New York, Broadway Books, 1994) Children brought up in single mother homes are: 5 times more likely to commit suicide, 9 times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape, 20 times more likely to end up in prison, 32 times more likely to run away from home. Chuck Eddy, “The Daddy Shady Show”, Village Voice, Dec. 31, 2002 “America has more than twice as many teenage births as other developed nations.” Isabel V.Sawhill, to House Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee on Human Resources, June 29, 1999 86% of American teen births are out of wedlock. Dr. David Popenoe, “The Future of Marriage In America”, Rutgers Univ., The National Marriage Project, 2007 600,000 out of wedlock births in 1979. Patrick Fagan and William H.G.Fitzgerald, “Why Serious Welfare Reform Must Include Serious Adoption Reform. Heritage Foundation Reports, July 27, 1995 "(I)n a recent study by the Baltimore-based Annie E. Casey Foundation. Comparing statistics for its Kids Count report, the organization reported that Detroit ranks No.1 in unmarried births among the nations 50 largest cities. Of the 16,729 babies born in Detroit in 1997, 13,574 were black, 1,679 were white and 817 were Hispanic. Seventy-one percent were born to unmarried mothers. This compared with a state average of 33 percent and a 50-city average of 43 percent." Detroit is the worst offender on our list of America's most dangerous cities, thanks to a staggering rate of 1,220 violent crimes committed per 100,000 " Less than 1% of children born to never married women were placed for adoption from 1989 to 1995. U.S. DHHS, Child Welfare Information Gateway, “Voluntary Relinquishment For Adoption, Numbers and trends, 2005 In 2003, there were 1.5 Million unwed births, and less than 1% were put up for adoption. Fagan and Fitzgerald (above) Only 4% of college graduates have illegitimate children, and only 16% of college graduates get divorced, compared to 46% of high school dropouts, who marry in smaller numbers to begin with. Dr. David Popenoe, “The Future Of Marriage In America; “The Frayed Knot – Marriage in America”, The Economist, May 26, 2007 50% of single mothers are below the poverty line, their children are 6 times more likely to be in poverty than children with married parents. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live”, Tyndale House. 85% of homeless families are single mother families. Barry H. Waldman and Stephen P. Perlman, “Homeless Children With Disabilities, “ The Exceptional Parent, June 1, 2008 (American Academy of Developmental Medicine and Dentistry 90% of welfare recipients are single mothers. Jason DeParle, “Raising Kevion”, New York Times, Aug. 22, 2004 There were 3 million single mothers in 1970 and 10 million in 2003. U.S. Census, Table FM-2, All Parent/Child Situations, by Type, Race, and Hispanic origin of Householder, 1970 to 2003 The illegitimacy rate went up more than 300% since 1970. House Ways and Means Committee, Nonmarital Births to Adults and Teenagers and Federal Strategies to Reduce Nonmarital Pregnancies, appendix “M”, 2003 From: James D Carmine Subject: FATHER your own? No! Foster parent someone elses? Sure! The sickest problem is I can legally raise someone else's kids and get paid for it by the state, but I am not allowed to see my own child for more than 4 days a month. Of course I can also live with some other father's kids as well as spend most of his money, so long as I am shacking up with his ex. Thank you Liberal lunatics. Seems I can raise anyone's kids but the ones I really love. MY OWN. The detriment to society of the current anti-family court system is very clear. Note the following:
SINGLE MOTHER HOMES

37.8% of single mothers are divorced, 41% never married, and only 6.5% widows. Brookings Institute, “Assessing the Impact of Welfare Reform on Single Mothers”, Part 2, 3/22/04

“The strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison, is that they were raised by a single parent”. C.C. Harper and S.S. McLanahan, “Father Absence and Youth Incarceration”, Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Assoc., San Francisco, CA, 1998

In 1996, 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997

72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323

70% of teen births occur to girls in single mother homes. David T. Lykken, “Reconstructing Fathers”, American Psychologist 55, 681,681, 2000

70% of drop-outs, and 70% of teen suicides come from single mother homes. Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents,” IMPRIMIS 26, N0. 6, June 1997

70% of runaways, 70% of juvenile delinquents, and 70% of Child murderers, come from single mother homes. Richard E. Redding, “It’s Really About Sex”, Duke Univ. Journal of Gender Law and Policy, Jan.1, 2008

“Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous, and more likely to end up divorced.” Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, No.6, June, 1997

“After controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.” Progressive Policy Institute, 1990, quoted by David Blankenhorn, “Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem,” New York, Harper Perennial, 1996, p.31

63% of all youth suicides,
70% of all teen pregnancies,
71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers,
80% of all prison inmates, and
90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes.
Bob Ray Sanders, “Hey Y’all, Let’s Fill The Hall (Of Fame), Ft. Worth Star Telegram, Oct.28,2007
Mona Charen, “More Good News Than Bad?”, Washington Times, Mar.16, 2001 (citing Bill Bennett, “The Index of Leading Cultural Indicators: American society at the end of the 20th Century., New York, Broadway Books, 1994)
Children brought up in single mother homes are:
5 times more likely to commit suicide,
9 times more likely to drop out of high school,
10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances,
14 times more likely to commit rape,
20 times more likely to end up in prison,
32 times more likely to run away from home.
Chuck Eddy, “The Daddy Shady Show”, Village Voice, Dec. 31, 2002

“America has more than twice as many teenage births as other developed nations.” Isabel V.Sawhill, to House Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee on Human Resources, June 29, 1999

86% of American teen births are out of wedlock. Dr. David Popenoe, “The Future of Marriage In America”, Rutgers Univ., The National Marriage Project, 2007

600,000 out of wedlock births in 1979. Patrick Fagan and William H.G.Fitzgerald, “Why Serious Welfare Reform Must Include Serious Adoption Reform. Heritage Foundation Reports, July 27, 1995

“(I)n a recent study by the Baltimore-based Annie E. Casey Foundation. Comparing statistics for its Kids Count report, the organization reported that Detroit ranks No.1 in unmarried births among the nations 50 largest cities. Of the 16,729 babies born in Detroit in 1997, 13,574 were black, 1,679 were white and 817 were Hispanic. Seventy-one percent were born to unmarried mothers. This compared with a state average of 33 percent and a 50-city average of 43 percent.”

Detroit is the worst offender on our list of America’s most dangerous cities, thanks to a staggering rate of 1,220 violent crimes committed per 100,000 ”

Less than 1% of children born to never married women were placed for adoption from 1989 to 1995. U.S. DHHS, Child Welfare Information Gateway, “Voluntary Relinquishment For Adoption, Numbers and trends, 2005

In 2003, there were 1.5 Million unwed births, and less than 1% were put up for adoption. Fagan and Fitzgerald (above)

Only 4% of college graduates have illegitimate children, and only 16% of college graduates get divorced, compared to 46% of high school dropouts, who marry in smaller numbers to begin with. Dr. David Popenoe, “The Future Of Marriage In America; “The Frayed Knot – Marriage in America”, The Economist, May 26, 2007

50% of single mothers are below the poverty line, their children are 6 times more likely to be in poverty than children with married parents. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live”, Tyndale House.

85% of homeless families are single mother families. Barry H. Waldman and Stephen P. Perlman, “Homeless Children With Disabilities, “ The Exceptional Parent, June 1, 2008 (American Academy of Developmental Medicine and Dentistry

90% of welfare recipients are single mothers. Jason DeParle, “Raising Kevion”, New York Times, Aug. 22, 2004

There were 3 million single mothers in 1970 and 10 million in 2003. U.S. Census, Table FM-2, All Parent/Child Situations, by Type, Race, and Hispanic origin of Householder, 1970 to 2003

The illegitimacy rate went up more than 300% since 1970. House Ways and Means Committee, Nonmarital Births to Adults and Teenagers and Federal Strategies to Reduce Nonmarital Pregnancies, appendix “M”, 2003

From: James D Carmine
Subject: FATHER your own? No! Foster parent someone elses? Sure!
The sickest problem is I can legally raise someone else’s kids and get paid for it by the state, but I am not allowed to see my own child for more than 4 days a month. Of course I can also live with some other father’s kids as well as spend most of his money, so long as I am shacking up with his
ex. Thank you Liberal lunatics. Seems I can raise anyone’s kids but the ones I really love. MY OWN.

]]> By: Paul M. Clements http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-11916 Paul M. Clements Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:28:57 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-11916 One has to ask, "How did such an abhorrent state come to be?" The answer is: MONEY! In order for the radical, anti-male feminists to push their agenda forward, they lobbied for laws that would make female dominance PROFITABLE. So they got laws passed that would "reduce the burden on taxpayers" by forcing fathers to support mothers on welfare. The states were then paid by the federal gov't for collecting that child support. Not enough women on welfare to make it really profitable to the states, so Congress expanded the program to benefit women who WEREN'T on welfare. Child support morphed into a Communistic "TRANSFER OF WEALTH" program, and now 80% of the recipients are middle class mothers. Even fathers with shared physical custody are forced to pay into this feminist pork barrel. As always happens, the state collection agencies got greedy, and began abusing their authority. To insure that the courts turned a blind eye to the abuses, and rewarded the favored gender,the feds started paying the courts for HEARING child support cases. Welfare rolls were reduced by less than 3%, but the cost to the taxpayer has skyrocketed into the BILLIONS per year. Now, the states are reluctant to give up all this filthy lucre, and politicians and judges are firmly opposed to any changes in the system to right the inequalities. In fact, an entire INDUSTRY has grown up around the family courts. No matter how detrimental to the child, to society, or to the ideals of "justice", courts continue to separate fathers from their children in order to separate them from their money. One has to ask, “How did such an abhorrent state come to be?” The answer is: MONEY! In order for the radical, anti-male feminists to push their agenda forward, they lobbied for laws that would make female dominance PROFITABLE. So they got laws passed that would “reduce the burden on taxpayers” by forcing fathers to support mothers on welfare.
The states were then paid by the federal gov’t for collecting that child support. Not enough women on welfare to make it really profitable to the states, so Congress expanded the program to benefit women who WEREN’T on welfare. Child support morphed into a Communistic “TRANSFER OF WEALTH” program, and now 80% of the recipients are middle class mothers. Even fathers with shared physical custody are forced to pay into this feminist pork barrel. As always happens, the state collection agencies got greedy, and began abusing their authority. To insure that the courts turned a blind eye to the abuses, and rewarded the favored gender,the feds started paying the courts for HEARING child support cases. Welfare rolls were reduced by less than 3%, but the cost to the taxpayer has skyrocketed into the BILLIONS per year. Now, the states are reluctant to give up all this filthy lucre, and politicians and judges are firmly opposed to any changes in the system to right the inequalities. In fact, an entire INDUSTRY has grown up around the family courts. No matter how detrimental to the child, to society, or to the ideals of “justice”, courts continue to separate fathers from their children in order to separate them from their money.

]]> By: Greg NH http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-11903 Greg NH Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:31:52 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-11903 A New Hampshire Superior Court documented the estrangement and alienation of the children and their father was the result of mom's anger. The court ruled that the child suxual abuse did not occur and was the result of mom's actions. There were never any charges, indictment and DCYF ultimately closed the case as unfounded, withdrwe and closed the case based on the "suspicion" of mom's involvement. The court awared 100% residential responsibility to mom and $2,000 per month in child support to dad along with the only way for dad to see the children was in supervised visits. Greg A New Hampshire Superior Court documented the estrangement and alienation of the children and their father was the result of mom’s anger. The court ruled that the child suxual abuse did not occur and was the result of mom’s actions.

There were never any charges, indictment and DCYF ultimately closed the case as unfounded, withdrwe and closed the case based on the “suspicion” of mom’s involvement.

The court awared 100% residential responsibility to mom and $2,000 per month in child support to dad along with the only way for dad to see the children was in supervised visits.

Greg

]]> By: Dan http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-10227 Dan Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:47:48 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-10227 How my children suffered because Mom was leaving for greener pastures. I've found since my divorce that American women aren't worth the trouble, unless there is some compelling reason to be attached to them, such as raising children. I have to laugh, as yet another jerk is running around after my ex-wife with his pants down around his ankles. American manhood isn't what it used to be, either, as many divorced men will duplicate their error and prove their lack of virility by, first, marrying a divorcee, and second, having sex with an older woman. I may get lonely from time to time, but I'll tolerate it since the latter is an offense against nature, and outdoor sports and moderate drinking are preferable activities anyway. How my children suffered because Mom was leaving for greener pastures. I’ve found since my divorce that American women aren’t worth the trouble, unless there is some compelling reason to be attached to them, such as raising children. I have to laugh, as yet another jerk is running around after my ex-wife with his pants down around his ankles.

American manhood isn’t what it used to be, either, as many divorced men will duplicate their error and prove their lack of virility by, first, marrying a divorcee, and second, having sex with an older woman. I may get lonely from time to time, but I’ll tolerate it since the latter is an offense against nature, and outdoor sports and moderate drinking are preferable activities anyway.

]]> By: Lysander_Spooner http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-10225 Lysander_Spooner Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:46:32 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-10225 Here is my answer short and sweet: Never voluntarily place oneself under the jurisdiction of the Family Court. In other words never marry the State, Here is my answer short and sweet:

Never voluntarily place oneself under the jurisdiction of the Family Court.

In other words never marry the State,

]]> By: Steynian 386 « Free Canuckistan! http://www.amconmag.com/blog/married-to-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-10219 Steynian 386 « Free Canuckistan! Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:57:48 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/blog/?page_id=2191#comment-10219 [...] MARRIED TO THE STATE. In 1947, with the baby boom in its infancy and few disposed to hearing of family crisis, Harvard [...] [...] MARRIED TO THE STATE. In 1947, with the baby boom in its infancy and few disposed to hearing of family crisis, Harvard [...]

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