Toiling In Obscurity
Posted on June 9th, 2008
by Daniel Larison |
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When I checked with it to ask for a list of prominent conservative supporters, the [Obama] campaign seemed genuinely unaware that such supporters even existed. ~Bruce Bartlett
Via Sullivan
I expect that they are as mystified by the phenomenon as I am, because they would also have great difficulty understanding why conservatives would support Obama. Such is their concern for transcendence and unity–be forewarned, hopesters. Indeed, the emphasis of Bartlett’s piece on Obama’s rhetoric and style underscores the lack of substantive reasons for such support. “Sympathy” for school vouchers is like so many other examples of Obama’s interest in policy reforms that conservatives and libertarians find attractive–it is a line used to show that Obama is thoughtful and reflective, but it ultimately suggests no strong interest in advancing said reform and it commits him to nothing. The campaign knows as well as anyone that the following statement is not really true:
Conservatives of almost all ideological flavors (even, gasp, some supply-siders) have been drawn to Obama–out of a genuine affection and a belief that he may actually better embody movement ideals than McCain [bold mine-DL].
Yet this is exactly what several of them are not saying at all. This is what their critics accuse them of saying as a way of ridiculing them. A couple of them have said something like this from time to time, but on the whole the enthusiasm for Obama derives from the important reality that Obama is not John McCain. There is a desire to punish the GOP for Bushism, and so they rally around the most practical vehicle for defeating the inheritor of Bushism. This is very clear from what most of them say in their own arguments.
Prof. Bacevich’s oft-cited article, which is indeed much more interesting as a discussion of what conservatism is rather than as a justification for why conservatives should opt for Obama, is a perfect case in point. The article offers a fine definition of conservatism and a brilliant, withering assault on the failures and flaws of the GOP and McCain. The positive case for Obama is all but non-existent (there is reason to think he would end the war), and it is laced with caveats:
None of these concerns number among those that inspired Barack Obama’s run for the White House. When it comes to foreign policy, Obama’s habit of spouting internationalist bromides suggests little affinity for serious realism. His views are those of a conventional liberal. Nor has Obama expressed any interest in shrinking the presidency to its pre-imperial proportions. He does not cite Calvin Coolidge among his role models. And however inspiring, Obama’s speeches are unlikely to make much of a dent in the culture. The next generation will continue to take its cues from Hollywood rather than from the Oval Office.
If this is an endorsement, who needs criticism?
P.S. Ambinder has some useful graphs that make it quite clear that almost no one thinks of Obama as conservative, and not all that many think he is a moderate.
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Ambinder’s graphs are bizarre. We have choices of very conservative, somewhat conservative, moderate, and liberal. I realize he got them from the McCain campaign, so of course they’re propaganda, but we could at least point that out, couldn’t we?
The actual breakdown for McCain is 46 conservative, 31 moderate, 11 liberal. Obama is 8 conservative, 24 moderate, and 55 liberal. So… people think McCain is a conservative and Obama’s a liberal. Shocking, I’m sure.
As for the conservative case for Obama, far be it from me to make it. I would just as soon see conservatism disappear from the earth, but you’ve made the positive argument for Obama in this post. Obama may end the war; McCain most assuredly won’t. What’s left to debate at this point?
“What’s left to debate at this point? ”
Oh, I don’t know. What about everything else that the government does, fails to do or should do?
“Obama may end the war”
I keep being stunned that so many people are willing to hang a vote for Obama on this very small (and quickly shrinking) hook. I recall that Obama, in a debate, declined to guarentee that all US troops would be out of Iraq by Jan. 2013. Does an American troop prescence in Iraq magically become acceptable when the CINC has a “D” after his name?
Daniel: I understand your concern, but I can’t fathom how you could think McCain comes out better. (Also, I realize that you have no qualms about a third party vote, so my forcing of a binary choice is artificial.) He will not end the war, he will not end the torture regime, he will not end warrantless wiretapping, he will not reexamine the GOP’s position on trade, and he will likely seek to liberalize immigration law (I don’t consider all of those things bad, but I’m fairly certain you do). He is the successor of, as Bacevich compellingly argues, a radically unconservative Republican Party. The probability that Obama leaves the United States better off in 8 years is not zero. That strikes me as a decisive argument both in his favor and against McCain.
Adam: It doesn’t become magically acceptable in the slightest. But my choices are a) a guy who opposed the war from the start, thinks it was a stupid and foreseeable mistake, and has said getting our troops out is more important than “finishing the mission” (whatever that means); and b) a guy who thinks there’s nothing wrong with leaving troops there forever. I don’t have to have delusions about Obama for this to be an awfully stark choice.
McCain will not yield to reason or public opinion.
Obama may be reasonable, and if not would most likely yield to public opinion.
And then there is the root issue, which candidate do the neocons support and which candidate supports the neocons? I’ll take the other guy.