Comments on: Practical Problems http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/ n. the principle of good order<br /><br /> "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:15:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Eunomia » It Is A Big Deal http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-12062 Eunomia » It Is A Big Deal Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:12:03 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/#comment-12062 [...] Quite right, as I was saying the other day.  Crowley continues later in his post: This still begs the questions of what Obama would do about those “more volatile areas.” He says here that he would withdraw from them “later.” Just how much later is the key question.  [...] [...] Quite right, as I was saying the other day.  Crowley continues later in his post: This still begs the questions of what Obama would do about those “more volatile areas.” He says here that he would withdraw from them “later.” Just how much later is the key question.  [...]

]]> By: General Mobius http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-12025 General Mobius Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:23:15 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/#comment-12025 Hey, remember when I said the only thing more devastating than the FISA reversal would be saying he was just joshing about wanting to get out of Iraq? I don't think we're there yet, but oh boy are we teetering on the edge. Hey, remember when I said the only thing more devastating than the FISA reversal would be saying he was just joshing about wanting to get out of Iraq? I don’t think we’re there yet, but oh boy are we teetering on the edge.

]]> By: jaloren http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-12023 jaloren Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:42:36 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/04/practical-problems/#comment-12023 When I read Nixonland, I was struck by the parallels between the withdrawal debate on Viet Nam and the withdrawal debate on Iraq. Both then and now, it was public knowledge that our government lied about the reasons for going to war and the chances of success. Then and now, the public is undergoing the slow, painful realization that no one has any idea why we invaded this country and what we are still doing there. And then and now, the exact same argument that Obama and McCain are making to stay in Iraq for another decade at least, is the argument that Nixon used in order to keep troops in Viet Nam . While the third option is the most bankrupt-- morally, intellectual, and strategically --it may be the most electorally safe. Obama, after all, remembers what happened to Democrats who spoke Truth to power and told the voters Truths they didn't want to hear. They killed the messenger. To a certain extent, the reason that troops will be in Iraq for another decade or more arises from the fact that the American electorate won't have it any other way. When I read Nixonland, I was struck by the parallels between the withdrawal debate on Viet Nam and the withdrawal debate on Iraq.

Both then and now, it was public knowledge that our government lied about the reasons for going to war and the chances of success. Then and now, the public is undergoing the slow, painful realization that no one has any idea why we invaded this country and what we are still doing there.

And then and now, the exact same argument that Obama and McCain are making to stay in Iraq for another decade at least, is the argument that Nixon used in order to keep troops in Viet Nam . While the third option is the most bankrupt– morally, intellectual, and strategically –it may be the most electorally safe.

Obama, after all, remembers what happened to Democrats who spoke Truth to power and told the voters Truths they didn’t want to hear. They killed the messenger. To a certain extent, the reason that troops will be in Iraq for another decade or more arises from the fact that the American electorate won’t have it any other way.

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