Comments on: The Sorry State Of Affairs http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/ n. the principle of good order<br /><br /> "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:07:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: conradg http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/comment-page-1/#comment-12046 conradg Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:25:19 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/#comment-12046 Personally, I think voting for any third party protest candidate is a cop-out, unless they havea real chance of winning. It's a way of avoiding the hard choice between two flawed major party candidates that will actually determine who is President and what policies are enacted over the next 4-8 years. I can understand the bind most people here are in, in that neither Obama or McCain represents paleocon views very well, but one still has to recognize that one of those two will be President, and not Barr or Baldwin or Paul. A politically engaged individual has to accept that reality and participate in the decision between those two candidates, however difficult it might be. Personally, I think voting for any third party protest candidate is a cop-out, unless they havea real chance of winning. It’s a way of avoiding the hard choice between two flawed major party candidates that will actually determine who is President and what policies are enacted over the next 4-8 years. I can understand the bind most people here are in, in that neither Obama or McCain represents paleocon views very well, but one still has to recognize that one of those two will be President, and not Barr or Baldwin or Paul. A politically engaged individual has to accept that reality and participate in the decision between those two candidates, however difficult it might be.

]]> By: tedschan http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/comment-page-1/#comment-12038 tedschan Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:16:12 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/#comment-12038 Ah, ok, that is something for me to consider--I believe the CP is on the ballot in California, and I had been favoring Baldwin over Barr. But I will think about the reasons you put forth. Ah, ok, that is something for me to consider–I believe the CP is on the ballot in California, and I had been favoring Baldwin over Barr. But I will think about the reasons you put forth.

]]> By: Daniel Larison http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/comment-page-1/#comment-12032 Daniel Larison Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:59:58 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/#comment-12032 What would my reasons be for voting for Baldwin rather than Barr? To cast a protest vote against Bob Barr? To split the already tiny dissident vote on the right? Substantively, there is not much difference between the two candidates, whatever you want to say about the differences between the parties. Meanwhile the CP will probably be on fewer state ballots than the Libertarians (again), some elements of the AIP are trying to break away to back Keyes, which will diminish the already small number of CP voters, and Barr stands the best chance of being heard and consolidating dissent on the right behind one candidate. The whole business with the AIP unfortunately reminds me of the chaos in the Reform Party in 2000, and I'm not interested in watching another version of that. What would my reasons be for voting for Baldwin rather than Barr? To cast a protest vote against Bob Barr? To split the already tiny dissident vote on the right?

Substantively, there is not much difference between the two candidates, whatever you want to say about the differences between the parties. Meanwhile the CP will probably be on fewer state ballots than the Libertarians (again), some elements of the AIP are trying to break away to back Keyes, which will diminish the already small number of CP voters, and Barr stands the best chance of being heard and consolidating dissent on the right behind one candidate. The whole business with the AIP unfortunately reminds me of the chaos in the Reform Party in 2000, and I’m not interested in watching another version of that.

]]> By: Grumpy Old Man http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/comment-page-1/#comment-12029 Grumpy Old Man Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:48:39 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/#comment-12029 I like Greenhut, who's an Orhtodox convert, amont other things, but he's a fairly textbook libertarian and would like us to be more receiptive to immigration. He doesn't like dense housing or public transportation. He may lost both of those battles, since Orange County is pretty much build up with SFRs, and gasoline is headed skyward. I must say I'm leaning to Barr, too. I want to like BHO, but he's such a left-liberal I can't bring myself to support him, even though the <i>Commentary</i> crowd hates him. I like Greenhut, who’s an Orhtodox convert, amont other things, but he’s a fairly textbook libertarian and would like us to be more receiptive to immigration.

He doesn’t like dense housing or public transportation. He may lost both of those battles, since Orange County is pretty much build up with SFRs, and gasoline is headed skyward.

I must say I’m leaning to Barr, too. I want to like BHO, but he’s such a left-liberal I can’t bring myself to support him, even though the Commentary crowd hates him.

]]> By: tedschan http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/comment-page-1/#comment-12028 tedschan Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:42:34 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/07/06/the-sorry-state-of-affairs/#comment-12028 Mr. Larison, are you favoring voting for Barr over Baldwin at this point? What would your reasons be? Mr. Larison, are you favoring voting for Barr over Baldwin at this point? What would your reasons be?

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