Comments on: Here’s Some Change For You http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/ n. the principle of good order<br /><br /> "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:15:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: What John Wanted « Upturned Earth || John Schwenkler http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13501 What John Wanted « Upturned Earth || John Schwenkler Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:16:11 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/#comment-13501 [...] [ADDENDUM: Cf. Henley: It remains to be seen whether Palin is merely as big a fraud as most politicians or a bigger one, but Palin herself is a distraction. And, you know, she’s not running for President. John McCain is, and as Larison says, John McCain would be everything anyone hated about the Bush years minus the occasional bouts of temperance. Eve and Nat Hentoff (whom she links) wonder if Palin would be "as flip-flopping as Mr. McCain on the Bush torture policy," which is an odd way to put it. There’s no evidence that Palin has a preexisting torture policy to flip away from, let alone what it would be. What there is evidence of is: Sarah Palin is John McCain’s running mate, not the other way around. Sarah Palin and John McCain are running under the aegis of the Republican Party, which has made support for torture a litmus-test issue. Think about it: John McCain would not be the GOP presidential nominee if he had not flip-flopped on torture, because the GOP is a pro-torture institution. Its elites and its mass base insist on the rightness and necessity of torture. It doesn’t even matter what Sarah Palin’s personal opinion is: she’s not being hired to be the Party’s conscience on civil liberties and the treatment of prisoners. [...] [...] [ADDENDUM: Cf. Henley: It remains to be seen whether Palin is merely as big a fraud as most politicians or a bigger one, but Palin herself is a distraction. And, you know, she’s not running for President. John McCain is, and as Larison says, John McCain would be everything anyone hated about the Bush years minus the occasional bouts of temperance. Eve and Nat Hentoff (whom she links) wonder if Palin would be "as flip-flopping as Mr. McCain on the Bush torture policy," which is an odd way to put it. There’s no evidence that Palin has a preexisting torture policy to flip away from, let alone what it would be. What there is evidence of is: Sarah Palin is John McCain’s running mate, not the other way around. Sarah Palin and John McCain are running under the aegis of the Republican Party, which has made support for torture a litmus-test issue. Think about it: John McCain would not be the GOP presidential nominee if he had not flip-flopped on torture, because the GOP is a pro-torture institution. Its elites and its mass base insist on the rightness and necessity of torture. It doesn’t even matter what Sarah Palin’s personal opinion is: she’s not being hired to be the Party’s conscience on civil liberties and the treatment of prisoners. [...]

]]> By: Strange We Can Believe In § Unqualified Offerings http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13498 Strange We Can Believe In § Unqualified Offerings Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:23:09 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/#comment-13498 [...] conscience on civil liberties and the treatment of prisoners. Posted by Jim Henley @ 12:24 am, Filed under: Main « « Coming soon to a SWAT team near you | Main| [...] [...] conscience on civil liberties and the treatment of prisoners. Posted by Jim Henley @ 12:24 am, Filed under: Main « « Coming soon to a SWAT team near you | Main| [...]

]]> By: ZackF http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13465 ZackF Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:14:32 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/#comment-13465 Oh boy, I am really enjoying these post-vacation Larison guns that are just massacring McCain. Oh boy, I am really enjoying these post-vacation Larison guns that are just massacring McCain.

]]> By: Howard J. Harrison http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13462 Howard J. Harrison Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:55:37 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/#comment-13462 <em>If you want an idea of what a McCain administration would be like, imagine the last eight years and then remove whatever common sense and competence there has been and you will be close.</em> Ouch. If you want an idea of what a McCain administration would be like, imagine the last eight years and then remove whatever common sense and competence there has been and you will be close.

Ouch.

]]> By: Bustrofedon http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13459 Bustrofedon Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:39:44 +0000 http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/01/heres-some-change-for-you/#comment-13459 Good point although there wasn't a whole lot of common sense and competence in the Bush Administration, especially in the first five years (the years of the greatest ideological fervor which also coincided with the worst abuses/missteps of Iraq, torture, Katrina plus bankrupting the US). The only reason they have behaved (in relative terms) a little better in the last couple of years is that they have imploded internally due to their own arrogance, mismanagement and stupidity. McCain probably won't repeat some of their mistakes - he'll come up with new ones. Good point although there wasn’t a whole lot of common sense and competence in the Bush Administration, especially in the first five years (the years of the greatest ideological fervor which also coincided with the worst abuses/missteps of Iraq, torture, Katrina plus bankrupting the US). The only reason they have behaved (in relative terms) a little better in the last couple of years is that they have imploded internally due to their own arrogance, mismanagement and stupidity.

McCain probably won’t repeat some of their mistakes – he’ll come up with new ones.

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