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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: BarryHatesLogins</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/10/15/playing-not-to-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-15559</link>
		<dc:creator>BarryHatesLogins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, good point, but there&#039;s one thing to add:

Gerson was Bush&#039;s chief liesmith; when Bush wanted a turd gilded and polished, Gerson was the guy to call.  Any statement made by Gerson should be analyzed with &#039;he&#039;s a liar!&#039; as the starting point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, good point, but there&#8217;s one thing to add:</p>
<p>Gerson was Bush&#8217;s chief liesmith; when Bush wanted a turd gilded and polished, Gerson was the guy to call.  Any statement made by Gerson should be analyzed with &#8216;he&#8217;s a liar!&#8217; as the starting point.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Did you miss Ann Coulter on this topic?&quot;

I do my best to miss Ann Coulter on any and all topics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did you miss Ann Coulter on this topic?&#8221;</p>
<p>I do my best to miss Ann Coulter on any and all topics.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveInOz</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveInOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The standout comment of the debates has been McCain&#039;s comment in the first debate that Obama doesn&#039;t understand the difference between strategy and tactics.  This highlighted McCain&#039;s problem as it demonstrated that it was he that didn&#039;t know the difference.

He was talking about &#039;The Surge&#039; - a tactic designed to provide time for political reconciliation in Iraq - the strategy (I could be being a bit generous here in assuming that the current administration had a strategy in mind other than kicking the can down the road for the next president). But it has also shone a very bright light on the contrast between the two campaigns. While Obama&#039;s campaign has always focussed on the strategy of winning 270 or more electoral votes and building a machine to accomplish that, McCain&#039;s campaign has been a series of tactics dictated by the facts of the day.
 
Sarah Palin&#039;s pick was undoubtedly a tactic to attempt to crush the big bounce that Obama was going to get get from the Democratic Convention and his closing speech. It succeeded in its aim by giving McCain a big bounce in the polls but it only lasted a couple of weeks before reality set in and the unvetted choice proved disastrous in the long term. 

I think it is Obama&#039;s clear setting of strategic goals that will be his most valuable asset when he (presumably) becomes President next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standout comment of the debates has been McCain&#8217;s comment in the first debate that Obama doesn&#8217;t understand the difference between strategy and tactics.  This highlighted McCain&#8217;s problem as it demonstrated that it was he that didn&#8217;t know the difference.</p>
<p>He was talking about &#8216;The Surge&#8217; &#8211; a tactic designed to provide time for political reconciliation in Iraq &#8211; the strategy (I could be being a bit generous here in assuming that the current administration had a strategy in mind other than kicking the can down the road for the next president). But it has also shone a very bright light on the contrast between the two campaigns. While Obama&#8217;s campaign has always focussed on the strategy of winning 270 or more electoral votes and building a machine to accomplish that, McCain&#8217;s campaign has been a series of tactics dictated by the facts of the day.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin&#8217;s pick was undoubtedly a tactic to attempt to crush the big bounce that Obama was going to get get from the Democratic Convention and his closing speech. It succeeded in its aim by giving McCain a big bounce in the polls but it only lasted a couple of weeks before reality set in and the unvetted choice proved disastrous in the long term. </p>
<p>I think it is Obama&#8217;s clear setting of strategic goals that will be his most valuable asset when he (presumably) becomes President next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Copold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Copold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Instead he could have played to moderates and independents with the selection of someone like Lieberman (whatâ€™s the base gonna do, vote for a Clinton? Ha!).&lt;/i&gt;

Did you miss Ann Coulter on this topic?  She&#039;s about as base-y as you can get and she said she was voting for Clinton over McCain before he made a VP pick.  I don&#039;t think picking Soupy Joe would have changed that.

The base could also just sit on its hands.  They might troop out to vote for Johnny Mac, but their wallets would have stayed shut and they wouldn&#039;t have manned the campaign offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Instead he could have played to moderates and independents with the selection of someone like Lieberman (whatâ€™s the base gonna do, vote for a Clinton? Ha!).</i></p>
<p>Did you miss Ann Coulter on this topic?  She&#8217;s about as base-y as you can get and she said she was voting for Clinton over McCain before he made a VP pick.  I don&#8217;t think picking Soupy Joe would have changed that.</p>
<p>The base could also just sit on its hands.  They might troop out to vote for Johnny Mac, but their wallets would have stayed shut and they wouldn&#8217;t have manned the campaign offices.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rawshark, 

That would be the mother of all Bradley effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rawshark, </p>
<p>That would be the mother of all Bradley effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Larison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Larison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he had chosen Lieberman, his campaign would have gone up in flames faster than Zozobra.  Besides demoralizing a lot of Republicans, the choice would have declared to the world, &quot;Yes, we are crazy warmongers.&quot;  Even Hillary &quot;Obliterate Iran&quot; Clinton would look reasonable next to those two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he had chosen Lieberman, his campaign would have gone up in flames faster than Zozobra.  Besides demoralizing a lot of Republicans, the choice would have declared to the world, &#8220;Yes, we are crazy warmongers.&#8221;  Even Hillary &#8220;Obliterate Iran&#8221; Clinton would look reasonable next to those two.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Once he had a politically talented, reasonably well-informed and well-funded candidate, as he would have had in either eventual Democratic nominee, the writing was on the wall and McCain was definitely found wanting.&quot;

Maybe. I don&#039;t know, though. I think that if Hillary Clinton had edged out a victory in the Dem primary, the dynamics of the race would have been very different and more in McCain&#039;s favor. For one thing, a Clinton win would have ignited the GOP based faster than a lightning strike in a field of dry California grass. All the volunteers and funds he got after the Palin nomination would have started coming in much earlier -- and there would have been no need to tap the Alaska gov. Instead he could have played to moderates and independents with the selection of someone like Lieberman (what&#039;s the base gonna do, vote for a Clinton? Ha!). You&#039;re probably right that his poor preparation and campaigning would have caught up with him in the end, but still...I just don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Once he had a politically talented, reasonably well-informed and well-funded candidate, as he would have had in either eventual Democratic nominee, the writing was on the wall and McCain was definitely found wanting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe. I don&#8217;t know, though. I think that if Hillary Clinton had edged out a victory in the Dem primary, the dynamics of the race would have been very different and more in McCain&#8217;s favor. For one thing, a Clinton win would have ignited the GOP based faster than a lightning strike in a field of dry California grass. All the volunteers and funds he got after the Palin nomination would have started coming in much earlier &#8212; and there would have been no need to tap the Alaska gov. Instead he could have played to moderates and independents with the selection of someone like Lieberman (what&#8217;s the base gonna do, vote for a Clinton? Ha!). You&#8217;re probably right that his poor preparation and campaigning would have caught up with him in the end, but still&#8230;I just don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: rawshark</title>
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		<dc:creator>rawshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;McCain never made the case for himself, because he assumed that he would be the default winner once the public decided Obama was unprepared&#039;

Correction: &#039;once the public realized Obama was black&#039;. 

I still don&#039;t think Obama will win and it&#039;s for that reason. If the dem candidate was white (but not Hillary) McCain would have conceeded already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;McCain never made the case for himself, because he assumed that he would be the default winner once the public decided Obama was unprepared&#8217;</p>
<p>Correction: &#8216;once the public realized Obama was black&#8217;. </p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t think Obama will win and it&#8217;s for that reason. If the dem candidate was white (but not Hillary) McCain would have conceeded already.</p>
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		<title>By: kitstolz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitstolz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point. Another example of McCain&#039;s disorganization and heedlessness is the promise he made yesterday to attack Obama with the Ayers/terrorist charge in the debate tonight. Even if you think this charge has substance, surely announcing the attack before launching it isn&#039;t a great move tactically. Yet McCain never seems to consider that Obama might be able to throw a punch or two himself. No wonder he&#039;s flailing. He literally doesn&#039;t know what&#039;s hitting him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point. Another example of McCain&#8217;s disorganization and heedlessness is the promise he made yesterday to attack Obama with the Ayers/terrorist charge in the debate tonight. Even if you think this charge has substance, surely announcing the attack before launching it isn&#8217;t a great move tactically. Yet McCain never seems to consider that Obama might be able to throw a punch or two himself. No wonder he&#8217;s flailing. He literally doesn&#8217;t know what&#8217;s hitting him.</p>
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