Thoughts On Russian Nationalism And The West

Posted on November 1st, 2008 by Daniel Larison

But the August war in Georgia and the ongoing economic and financial collapse mark a tipping point. For the first time in generations, a mood of patriotism, jingoism and staunch Russian nationalism have become pervasive among even educated Russians who once considered themselves pro-Western liberals. Yes, most Russians have been reflexively patriotic all along. But Russia has seldom in living memory been more nationalistic—and seldom have Russia’s brightest and best found themselves more in agreement with the people—as well as the Kremlin—on their country’s greatness. In the spring of 2008, 65 percent of Russians felt “generally positive” about the United States, according to the Yuri Levada opinion polls center in Moscow. But after the war in Georgia, that indicator dropped to just 7 percent. At the same time, Putin’s approval ratings have climbed eight points between July and September to 88 percent; Dmitry Medvedev’s increased 13 points, to 83 percent. ~Newsweek

That surge in hostility towards the United States is remarkable, but not at all surprising.  We cannot as a matter of official policy and establishment consensus opinion vilify Russia for years and then treat Russia as the villain in what is at best a very murky, complicated conflict and expect there to be no consequences.  Throughout Russian history, when Russia has faced an external challenge it has worked to the advantage of the state, as memories of past conflicts are mapped onto new ones and there is a strong nationalist impulse to solidarity with the state in response to the challenge.  This is a common theme in nationalist politics, but it is strongest among nations that have both old and recent memories of foreign invasions.  What I have continued to find so frustrating and perplexing about Western expressions of antipathy for Russia’s legitimate interests is the complete lack of comprehension of the political reaction this real and perceived hostility would cause inside Russia.  After each provocation, Russian nationalism grows stronger, Putinism becomes more entrenched and U.S.-Russian relations keep deteriorating, and then Westerners complain about Russia “turning away from the West”–how can Westerners not see their own part in this dynamic? 

If Russia is becoming increasingly nationalistic, and is now more so than at any time since the end of the Cold War, it is no small part because Westerners have spent the better part of the last twenty years making demands, acting provocatively and ignoring Russian interests.  If liberal forces have been completely routed and authoritarianism advances, it is at least in part because Putin and Medvedev offer the Russian public a means for political expression of their frustrations and interests and these figures can plausibly portray liberals as excessively pro-Western and their Western sympathizers as pretty clearly anti-Russian.  If the interests of Russians and their ability to live in a freer society are the concer, why continue to play into the hands of authoritarian populists and the forces of nationalism by adopting ever-more confrontational and anti-Russian positions?  When a foreign government berates and vilifies America, or even just criticizes our government, most Americans take a dim view of that foreign government regardless of whether the criticism has merit and regardless of their own political views.  Why would we expect Russians to be any different?  When the founder of Yabloko and other members of the liberal opposition are siding with the modern Kremlin, Western sympathizers with Russian liberalism–who are also typically advocates of democracy promotion and NATO expansion–have done something wrong.  Even though this may ultimately be for the best in weakening the association between Russian liberals and the West, clearly any “freedom agenda” Washington wants to promote has gone badly awry when the last Russian liberals want nothing to do with the West.  For my part, I think that internal Russian affairs are the business of Russians, and America’s concern should be to pursue as much cooperation with the Russians as our just interests allow, but it seems inescapable that if you are interested in promoting liberalization inside Russia there could not be a more counterproductive approach than the current method of threaten-and-insult.  

Attending a Russian church, I know many Russians and Russian-Americans, and there is complete unanimity from everything I have heard from my friends that Russia is the aggrieved party in this conflict, Saakashvili is a war criminal and the American politicians who have paid court to him are appalling.  Electorally, this means opposition to McCain, who is rightly considered the worst of the lot.  There seems to be universal disgust with the news coverage of the war in Georgia.  As the results from the survey cited in the article show, clearly this is not simply a function of members of the diaspora taking a harder line than people in the home country as is sometimes the case with diasporan communities.

7 Responses to “Thoughts On Russian Nationalism And The West”

  1. I Haven’t been reading you long. Does the U.S. play the same antagonist in the middle east as it does in Russia?

  2. In some ways, I would say the U.S. does play a similar role, but it is not quite the same.

  3. The irony is that any non-military solution regarding Iran requires Russia to play a helpful role, and we seemed to have doomed that possibility by getting into this unnecessary pissing match with Russia over Georgia.

    Was this intentional?

  4. I lived in Russia for a couple of years in the nineties, and my wife’s family still lives there and in Ukraine. To say that I despise Putin’s regime and all it stands for is an understatement, however I have to say that I’m not sure that anything the Clinton or Bush administrations have done, other than supporting programs to secure nuclear material, has achieved anything resembling a constructive relationship.

    It’s not that I necessarily even disagree with most of the decisions that impacted US and Russian policy, such as the expansion of NATO and intervention in Kosovo. It’s that each time the US has essentially said, “I don’t care how bitter the pill is, you’ll swallow your damn medicine and you’ll like it.” You cannot continuously humiliate a former great power, whose people believe in its exceptionalism just like most Americans believe in ours, and not expect there to be any repercussions.

    Missile defense is a perfect example of an absolutely stupid policy decision in this regard. It plays right into the nationalists’ hands. We could have easily taken Russia’s original offer for a joint theater missile defense system and more realistically achieved our objective–to minimize the threat of a missile attack from “rogue” states such as Iran and N. Korea. Instead we’ve just given more justification to those in Russia’s military and government who perceive or wish us to be perceived as a continuing threat.

    I also can’t believe that both candidates still support making Georgia a member of NATO as soon as possble. Regardless of who you think is most responsible for the recent conflict there, there is no way in hell you should support membership for a country whose government behaves so recklessly. Besides, given that we support Kosovo’s right to self-determination, shouldn’t we at least consider the fact that Abhazia and S. Ossetia should have the same right, even if we think they’re making the wrong decision?

    BTW, I’ve bookmarked your blog. This is my first visit here and definitely won’t be the last. Very fine work!

  5. Perhaps our “brightest and best” could learn something. Putin, acting in accord with Russia’s own interests, has an approval of 88%. Our gov’t, acting persistently against America’s own interests, has an approval of 12%, the exact opposite.

    Regardless of governmental system, the people intuitively understand who’s with them and who’s against them.

    How do we get our “brightest and best” to understand this point?

  6. Ditto what you said about Russians being perplexed by the US reaction to the Russian-Georgian conflict. My husband is Russian and, while not a big fan of his former home, cannot understand why the US would want to get involved in a region rife with ethnic conflict. He and his friends also see Georgia as the aggressor in this matter.

    We’ve been amazed at the reaction of both candidates to this matter.

  7. The problem is that we expect the world to comport with our interests. Sometimes it is in our interest to engage Russia, sometimes it is not. And we expect the Russians to be okay with that.

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