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	<title>Comments on: Mr. Tumnus, Fast Eddie And Misjudging Obama</title>
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		<title>By: BarryD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One reason why this is happening is that a lot of journalists and pundits have become bored with the transition.&quot;

There&#039;s a steaming garbage mountain of Bush administration scandals still to be even glanced at, and lots of people whose mouths will loosen as they anticipate that administration&#039;s retaliatory power slackening.  But the journalists don&#039;t cover that.

There&#039;s 1/3 of a trillion $ given to Wall St, with no strings attached, for all practical purposes, money which Wall St seems to regard as a gift with no need of repayment or accountability.  But the journalists don&#039;t cover that (at least, to the extent that a Wall St melt-down and a 1/3 $trillion christmas gift to Wall St deserves).

Instead, the journalists are gleefullying noting that  Obama and Blagowhatever came from the same state.  And not even the governor being recording cursing Obama for not playing ball, and the GOP prosecutor not finding any connection, will get in the way of Whitewater II.  

It&#039;s amazing; it&#039;s almost like the mass media, despite social liberalism, is really run by the financial elites of our country, who have serious ideas of what is and is not newsworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One reason why this is happening is that a lot of journalists and pundits have become bored with the transition.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a steaming garbage mountain of Bush administration scandals still to be even glanced at, and lots of people whose mouths will loosen as they anticipate that administration&#8217;s retaliatory power slackening.  But the journalists don&#8217;t cover that.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s 1/3 of a trillion $ given to Wall St, with no strings attached, for all practical purposes, money which Wall St seems to regard as a gift with no need of repayment or accountability.  But the journalists don&#8217;t cover that (at least, to the extent that a Wall St melt-down and a 1/3 $trillion christmas gift to Wall St deserves).</p>
<p>Instead, the journalists are gleefullying noting that  Obama and Blagowhatever came from the same state.  And not even the governor being recording cursing Obama for not playing ball, and the GOP prosecutor not finding any connection, will get in the way of Whitewater II.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing; it&#8217;s almost like the mass media, despite social liberalism, is really run by the financial elites of our country, who have serious ideas of what is and is not newsworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: tedschan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tedschan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deval Patrick may be articulate, but he&#039;s also rather boring as a speaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deval Patrick may be articulate, but he&#8217;s also rather boring as a speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: roquelaure</title>
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		<dc:creator>roquelaure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnUllmann:

Progressivism = morality?  Hunh, here I am a life-long progressive, and I must&#039;ve missed a newsletter!  Seriously, that&#039;s a mighty high horse you&#039;ve got there.

Progressives and conservatives are after the same basic thing: a healthy nation.  They have different priorities and different ideas about how to go about it, that&#039;s all.  Until we fully digest that fact, we&#039;re neither of us going to get much done.  I feel fairly confidant that Obama, the man you seem to admire, would agree with me.

I don&#039;t deny that the conservative movement and the Republicans in general have been suffering under a scourge of deeply flawed leaders and one might say, through them, a scourge of immorality.  But I, personally, don&#039;t have any interest in taking up the mantle of &quot;gut-level&quot; sanctimonious moral certitude, do you?  Let it retire with Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnUllmann:</p>
<p>Progressivism = morality?  Hunh, here I am a life-long progressive, and I must&#8217;ve missed a newsletter!  Seriously, that&#8217;s a mighty high horse you&#8217;ve got there.</p>
<p>Progressives and conservatives are after the same basic thing: a healthy nation.  They have different priorities and different ideas about how to go about it, that&#8217;s all.  Until we fully digest that fact, we&#8217;re neither of us going to get much done.  I feel fairly confidant that Obama, the man you seem to admire, would agree with me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t deny that the conservative movement and the Republicans in general have been suffering under a scourge of deeply flawed leaders and one might say, through them, a scourge of immorality.  But I, personally, don&#8217;t have any interest in taking up the mantle of &#8220;gut-level&#8221; sanctimonious moral certitude, do you?  Let it retire with Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: nyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Conrad. I too for some odd reason keep rooting for him especially when times were rough and he does share my concerns on what to do next, at least compared to most politicians (which is why I voted for him). I disagree with his foreign policy decisions but I don&#039;t really think he is that much of a mystery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Conrad. I too for some odd reason keep rooting for him especially when times were rough and he does share my concerns on what to do next, at least compared to most politicians (which is why I voted for him). I disagree with his foreign policy decisions but I don&#8217;t really think he is that much of a mystery.</p>
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		<title>By: nyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree, The Deuce. Obama has a mediocre record but his charisma does not have to do with being only an articulate black guy (otherwise would you not hear praise of Harold Ford Jr. if he had won his seat in Tennessee?). There are *articulate* young black politicians like Deval Patrick (but do you think Deval Patrick would have been elected to the White house?) but what distinguishes Obama is that he is really really hip and is more of a cultural icon. There is an &quot;it&quot; factor about him, something similar to the Kennedys. Never underestimate the &quot;it&quot; factor. I don&#039;t know why people keep resurrecting the articulate black guy as the only reason Obama is so appealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, The Deuce. Obama has a mediocre record but his charisma does not have to do with being only an articulate black guy (otherwise would you not hear praise of Harold Ford Jr. if he had won his seat in Tennessee?). There are *articulate* young black politicians like Deval Patrick (but do you think Deval Patrick would have been elected to the White house?) but what distinguishes Obama is that he is really really hip and is more of a cultural icon. There is an &#8220;it&#8221; factor about him, something similar to the Kennedys. Never underestimate the &#8220;it&#8221; factor. I don&#8217;t know why people keep resurrecting the articulate black guy as the only reason Obama is so appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnUllmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnUllmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, Mr.Larison! 

Except, you cynically adapt your prose to accommodate your conservative base. Real progressives, i.e., people who came to the table with no money at all, do not jettison their political allies out of convenience. They do it when they sense immorality because to them, the ends do not necessarily justify the means and are equally deserving of study and reflection.

It&#039;s really unfortunate that you and so many other cynical pundits cannot find the meaning of that word in your lexicon: MORALITY is not a theory. It has to do with idealism, a vision of how things ought to be and the willingness to hew to those principles and to people even when it is inconvenient or painful. Note how long it took for Obama to &quot;jettison&quot; his relationship with his controversial pastor and you see a man who agonized over the charges and counter-charges. You call the delay in his repudiation of Wright pragmatic? I was amazed that it took so long, for I can match your cynicism in a twinkling. It takes one to know one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, Mr.Larison! </p>
<p>Except, you cynically adapt your prose to accommodate your conservative base. Real progressives, i.e., people who came to the table with no money at all, do not jettison their political allies out of convenience. They do it when they sense immorality because to them, the ends do not necessarily justify the means and are equally deserving of study and reflection.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really unfortunate that you and so many other cynical pundits cannot find the meaning of that word in your lexicon: MORALITY is not a theory. It has to do with idealism, a vision of how things ought to be and the willingness to hew to those principles and to people even when it is inconvenient or painful. Note how long it took for Obama to &#8220;jettison&#8221; his relationship with his controversial pastor and you see a man who agonized over the charges and counter-charges. You call the delay in his repudiation of Wright pragmatic? I was amazed that it took so long, for I can match your cynicism in a twinkling. It takes one to know one.</p>
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		<title>By: conradg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deuce, maybe you, like Daniel, are just tempermentally unable to understand Obama. I don&#039;t really have that problem, because I think I come at things in a way much more similar to Obama than you do. He&#039;s not a cipher to me, or a mysterious object of fascination. He&#039;s a guy I root for because I see someone who approaches things in a fashion I like and admire and even aspire towards. Obviously you and I are very different people, and empathize with very different types. Maybe George Bush was your kind of guy. Well, Obama&#039;s my kind of guy, at least the closest I&#039;ve  seen on the national political stage, so I&#039;m neither threatend by nor feel the need to glamorize him. The best thing you said is that you didn&#039;t know much about him, and didn&#039;t know what he&#039;d do. The worst thing you said was everything after that, when you told us what Obama was and what he&#039;d do. Stick with what you don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deuce, maybe you, like Daniel, are just tempermentally unable to understand Obama. I don&#8217;t really have that problem, because I think I come at things in a way much more similar to Obama than you do. He&#8217;s not a cipher to me, or a mysterious object of fascination. He&#8217;s a guy I root for because I see someone who approaches things in a fashion I like and admire and even aspire towards. Obviously you and I are very different people, and empathize with very different types. Maybe George Bush was your kind of guy. Well, Obama&#8217;s my kind of guy, at least the closest I&#8217;ve  seen on the national political stage, so I&#8217;m neither threatend by nor feel the need to glamorize him. The best thing you said is that you didn&#8217;t know much about him, and didn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;d do. The worst thing you said was everything after that, when you told us what Obama was and what he&#8217;d do. Stick with what you don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Balloon Juice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Strange, Isn&#8217;t It</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balloon Juice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Strange, Isn&#8217;t It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sometimes I honestly think Daniel Larison is the only person on the planet who can clearly measure up Obama: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: roquelaure</title>
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		<dc:creator>roquelaure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  You just summarized beautifully all of the ridiculous psychology behind this issue and Obama&#039;s relationship with the media in general.  Thank you.

Looking back through history, I think it&#039;s clear that generational change can come rather quickly.  Obama is commencing a new political strategy, and the media will continue to misapply old labels to Obama until they figure that out.  Let us hope this comes sooner rather than later.  I&#039;m so very bored with their current performance.

It also makes it difficult for the press to properly police and monitor Obama when they all have their heads firmly up their backsides - and that&#039;s something a benevolent leader needs just as much as a corrupt one, imho, so it doesn&#039;t matter that we don&#039;t know yet which one he&#039;ll be.  Some of them will never come up for air, but eventually some will.

On an unrelated note, Daniel, I just wanted to say, I&#039;m a new poster but an old reader.  I always enjoy your posts, even though I&#039;m a scorching liberal and disagree with you on a great many things.  So thank you. *waves*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  You just summarized beautifully all of the ridiculous psychology behind this issue and Obama&#8217;s relationship with the media in general.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Looking back through history, I think it&#8217;s clear that generational change can come rather quickly.  Obama is commencing a new political strategy, and the media will continue to misapply old labels to Obama until they figure that out.  Let us hope this comes sooner rather than later.  I&#8217;m so very bored with their current performance.</p>
<p>It also makes it difficult for the press to properly police and monitor Obama when they all have their heads firmly up their backsides &#8211; and that&#8217;s something a benevolent leader needs just as much as a corrupt one, imho, so it doesn&#8217;t matter that we don&#8217;t know yet which one he&#8217;ll be.  Some of them will never come up for air, but eventually some will.</p>
<p>On an unrelated note, Daniel, I just wanted to say, I&#8217;m a new poster but an old reader.  I always enjoy your posts, even though I&#8217;m a scorching liberal and disagree with you on a great many things.  So thank you. *waves*</p>
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		<title>By: The Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Deuce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, I do have one prediction for how Obama will lead.

Based on his history, I&#039;d venture to guess that he will simply do what the establishment around him thinks should be done. He&#039;s never been a leader, and I doubt it&#039;s something that will come to him all of a sudden.

So, similar to Bush, we&#039;re going to see an extremely powerful Cabinet. Probably even moreso. And likely an extremely powerful Congress too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, I do have one prediction for how Obama will lead.</p>
<p>Based on his history, I&#8217;d venture to guess that he will simply do what the establishment around him thinks should be done. He&#8217;s never been a leader, and I doubt it&#8217;s something that will come to him all of a sudden.</p>
<p>So, similar to Bush, we&#8217;re going to see an extremely powerful Cabinet. Probably even moreso. And likely an extremely powerful Congress too.</p>
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		<title>By: The Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Deuce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the continual misjudgment of Obama is mostly due to a lack of information: We simply don&#039;t know enough about the guy to know who he is.

The reason for this is that he&#039;s got very little political history that we can actually look at and make a judgment on, and what history he does have largely consists of him calling in sick to avoid having to make any big stands. And, most of all, the media has been extremely remiss in reporting on what there is to be known of his background.

That&#039;s why I would say that you are still being premature, Daniel. For instance, how do you know that the guy never got personally involved in Chicago corruption? Do you actually have detailed knowledge of what he did there for 20 years? No, you don&#039;t. Nobody does. You can&#039;t make a certain statement one way or another.

There are some things we can say about him though, with confidence. He&#039;s definitely an establishmentarian and an opportunist, who goes along to get along with whoever holds the power, and doesn&#039;t make waves. Whether or not he was personally involved in Chicago corruption, we do know for sure that he has no history of ever standing up to it.

While he made some sounds about opposing the Washington establishment during the campaign, he only actually opposed it insofar as he ran against the Clintons, and now that he&#039;s won, he&#039;s surrounding himself with establishment figures.

In Congress, he had the most far-left voting record of anybody during his tenure, but it&#039;s hard to say whether this represents his real core, or if he was just going along with the Democratic establishment around him like he always does.

And, of course, he&#039;s made a bunch of contradictory promises along the campaign, to appease whoever he needed to get to the next stage, in opportunistic fashion.

So why is it that he&#039;s so unusually difficult to figure out for a Presidential candidate? What is it about him that makes it so that everyone is able to project their wildest fantasies on him? Why haven&#039;t we had a candidate like this before? Is it because he&#039;s so gosh-darned special?

Actually, I think it&#039;s the opposite. It&#039;s because he&#039;s so mediocre. Normally, a politician with such an undistinguished career, who just goes along with everyone else and doesn&#039;t make waves, and who avoids having to make any big decisions, wouldn&#039;t get anywhere near the Presidency. That sort of modus operandi is good for keeping you out of trouble, and for ensuring you a permanent cushy job as a nameless bureaucrat, but it doesn&#039;t make you stand out, and it doesn&#039;t make you a leader that people will follow.

The thing that makes Obama so hard to define, and so easy to project onto, is precisely his lack of distinguishment and his go-along-to-get-along habits. The reason we haven&#039;t had a President like this before is that we&#039;ve never elected anybody so undistinguished before. Normally, the American people wouldn&#039;t dream of putting in somebody that they didn&#039;t know a thing about, and who had such a meager, unaccomplished record.

However, Obama has one special trait: he&#039;s an articulate black guy. This fact makes half the country go into a rapturous bliss, and opens up opportunities for him that many anonymous politicians with a similar records to his could never dream of. And hence we end up in the unprecedented position of having a mysterious cipher of a President who nobody can figure out, but on whom everyone projects their hopes and fears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the continual misjudgment of Obama is mostly due to a lack of information: We simply don&#8217;t know enough about the guy to know who he is.</p>
<p>The reason for this is that he&#8217;s got very little political history that we can actually look at and make a judgment on, and what history he does have largely consists of him calling in sick to avoid having to make any big stands. And, most of all, the media has been extremely remiss in reporting on what there is to be known of his background.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I would say that you are still being premature, Daniel. For instance, how do you know that the guy never got personally involved in Chicago corruption? Do you actually have detailed knowledge of what he did there for 20 years? No, you don&#8217;t. Nobody does. You can&#8217;t make a certain statement one way or another.</p>
<p>There are some things we can say about him though, with confidence. He&#8217;s definitely an establishmentarian and an opportunist, who goes along to get along with whoever holds the power, and doesn&#8217;t make waves. Whether or not he was personally involved in Chicago corruption, we do know for sure that he has no history of ever standing up to it.</p>
<p>While he made some sounds about opposing the Washington establishment during the campaign, he only actually opposed it insofar as he ran against the Clintons, and now that he&#8217;s won, he&#8217;s surrounding himself with establishment figures.</p>
<p>In Congress, he had the most far-left voting record of anybody during his tenure, but it&#8217;s hard to say whether this represents his real core, or if he was just going along with the Democratic establishment around him like he always does.</p>
<p>And, of course, he&#8217;s made a bunch of contradictory promises along the campaign, to appease whoever he needed to get to the next stage, in opportunistic fashion.</p>
<p>So why is it that he&#8217;s so unusually difficult to figure out for a Presidential candidate? What is it about him that makes it so that everyone is able to project their wildest fantasies on him? Why haven&#8217;t we had a candidate like this before? Is it because he&#8217;s so gosh-darned special?</p>
<p>Actually, I think it&#8217;s the opposite. It&#8217;s because he&#8217;s so mediocre. Normally, a politician with such an undistinguished career, who just goes along with everyone else and doesn&#8217;t make waves, and who avoids having to make any big decisions, wouldn&#8217;t get anywhere near the Presidency. That sort of modus operandi is good for keeping you out of trouble, and for ensuring you a permanent cushy job as a nameless bureaucrat, but it doesn&#8217;t make you stand out, and it doesn&#8217;t make you a leader that people will follow.</p>
<p>The thing that makes Obama so hard to define, and so easy to project onto, is precisely his lack of distinguishment and his go-along-to-get-along habits. The reason we haven&#8217;t had a President like this before is that we&#8217;ve never elected anybody so undistinguished before. Normally, the American people wouldn&#8217;t dream of putting in somebody that they didn&#8217;t know a thing about, and who had such a meager, unaccomplished record.</p>
<p>However, Obama has one special trait: he&#8217;s an articulate black guy. This fact makes half the country go into a rapturous bliss, and opens up opportunities for him that many anonymous politicians with a similar records to his could never dream of. And hence we end up in the unprecedented position of having a mysterious cipher of a President who nobody can figure out, but on whom everyone projects their hopes and fears.</p>
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		<title>By: gsmart</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, Daniel. The press is just jonesing for something to write about, and scandal sells - the right has long been throwing every. single. thing. it. can. at the wall, in hopes something sticks - and this is just the latest incarnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, Daniel. The press is just jonesing for something to write about, and scandal sells &#8211; the right has long been throwing every. single. thing. it. can. at the wall, in hopes something sticks &#8211; and this is just the latest incarnation.</p>
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		<title>By: conradg</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/12/11/mr-tumnus-fast-eddie-and-misjudging-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-21126</link>
		<dc:creator>conradg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, aren&#039;t you one of the many people who have seriously misjudged Obama in the past? You used to admit this, which is good, but why should we assume your judgment of him is any more accurate now than it was then? Obama seems to be making fools of quite a lot of people who have underestimated or otherwise misjudged him. It&#039;s fine to point out that other people have misjudged Obama, but shouldn&#039;t that be done in full humility of your own misjudgment? Instead, we get this same certainty that you &quot;know&quot; Obama, and aren&#039;t fooled. Aren&#039;t you just setting yourself up for future embarassments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, aren&#8217;t you one of the many people who have seriously misjudged Obama in the past? You used to admit this, which is good, but why should we assume your judgment of him is any more accurate now than it was then? Obama seems to be making fools of quite a lot of people who have underestimated or otherwise misjudged him. It&#8217;s fine to point out that other people have misjudged Obama, but shouldn&#8217;t that be done in full humility of your own misjudgment? Instead, we get this same certainty that you &#8220;know&#8221; Obama, and aren&#8217;t fooled. Aren&#8217;t you just setting yourself up for future embarassments?</p>
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		<title>By: M.Z. Forrest</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/12/11/mr-tumnus-fast-eddie-and-misjudging-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-21104</link>
		<dc:creator>M.Z. Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly I had just finished reading a blog entry on how the media was afraid to even imply Blogo and Obama could possibly have a relationship.  Both sides need to come out of the bunker.  At least then, we would have the benefit of a debate over truth.  I can at least forgive your pessimism about Obama because it is based in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly I had just finished reading a blog entry on how the media was afraid to even imply Blogo and Obama could possibly have a relationship.  Both sides need to come out of the bunker.  At least then, we would have the benefit of a debate over truth.  I can at least forgive your pessimism about Obama because it is based in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: nyx</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/12/11/mr-tumnus-fast-eddie-and-misjudging-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-21102</link>
		<dc:creator>nyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooks is hilarious on Obama. Sometimes, he is very high, sometimes very low but he is always mistyeyed about Obama as being an ubermensch - either an unprincipled machiavellean pol from Chicago or as an enlightened academic instituiting Plato&#039;s republic.  Obama is very hard to figure out because there is something about him (an aura of inpenetrability?) that makes people entertain wild illusions about him and see their wildest fears or their wildest hopes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooks is hilarious on Obama. Sometimes, he is very high, sometimes very low but he is always mistyeyed about Obama as being an ubermensch &#8211; either an unprincipled machiavellean pol from Chicago or as an enlightened academic instituiting Plato&#8217;s republic.  Obama is very hard to figure out because there is something about him (an aura of inpenetrability?) that makes people entertain wild illusions about him and see their wildest fears or their wildest hopes.</p>
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