What do I disagree with, nagee76? How about, to start, the notion that The Plumber “scares” teh dreaded MSM. The MSM don’t find Joe frightening – they find him execrable. To bitch about the media’s supposed bias and then waltz in their with your own f*cking bias is not objectivity.

PJ is pure trash, and frankly, anti-american trash at that, in that the interests of the US are clearly subjugated to the interests of Israel.

Since you have taken the pain to read these articles ( I presume) can you please tell me what you disagree with ? or how these articles are meant for those people who “want to hear” what they like ?

I generally try not to be platitudinous when i criticize left wingers – but unfortunately its not something i have come to expect from others.

While we are on Joe The Plumber, lets not forget that he had his enitre tax history scoured simply because he dared to criticize the Messiah.

But here we have a future Secretrary of the Treasury who has not paid Medicare and Social security taxes for 4 years – a fact that came out not from the MSM – but from the Obama vetting team stung by the criticism of the Richardson flop.

So let me review – a fricking plumber’s tax returns were illegally scrutinized ( which lead to the sacking of a senioor official in Ohio) while a Treasury Secretrary who owed 4 years of SS and Medicare taxes was not even touched – until the Obama team itself released this embarrassing information.

This is the state of the liberal MSM and I will take PJM coverage any day over the nonsense that is today’s “mainstream journalism”

Heh.

1. John Rosenthal – “Dubious UN ‘Expert’ Misrepresents Guantanamo – Again” – Because there was never torture at Gitmo and KSM says everyone there is a card-carrying terrorist.

2. Stephen Green – “Is Time Rooting For Israel’s Defeat?” – Probably not, but hey, lookee what even I say in my PJM article:

“Everyone has their biases — here at Pajamas Media, we wear ours proudly on our sleeves.”

But give the people what they want? Never.

3. Roger Kimball – Annals of Global Warming – record cold proves you environmentalists carping about climate change have been dealt a stunning defeat. And Pravda is an eminently reliable source, because it reinforces something I think.

4. Pam Meister – “Obamamania in Overdrive.” Obama will be teh end of America. Also, he’s like Lady Di.

5. Bob Owens – “Pro-Joe: Plumber’s Trip to Israel Scares the Establishment Media” – Worth the price of admission for one line alone:

This results in gross incompetence, such as the multiple media accounts that have labeled M825A1 155mm artillery smoke shells as offensive chemical weapons.

Because Joe the Plumber? He can identify M825A1 155mm artillery smoke shells at 150 yards, by sight.

So, to sum up: Media bad. Joe the Plumber good. Obama bad! Israel good! UN? Bad! Global warming? Good! Or bad. Or something.

As you yourself note, this is run of the mill for political blogs (besides this one Daniel, which is why we keep coming back…) But let’s not pretend PJM is simply doing a public service by sending Professional Regular Guy Joe the Plumber over to Israel to report. He’s all over the f*cking Web site – he’s their damned mascot. He represents them, and a certain way of thinking – that expertise is overrated, let’s just bring in the average guy with his folksy common sense and then we’ll REALLY get to the bottom of things. Or sink to it.

I’m not sure what you are claiming here. I presume that it is that the vast majority of those who praised and embraced Palin did so for the reasons you mention. But this is just false. Palin was embraced primarily because she is adamantly pro-life, secondarily because she has lived a life that inspired many people, and finally because she was perceived to be a reformer. I am quite sure the majority of her supporters thought her lack of expertise was not a good thing. That was, in fact, generally agreed to be her biggest weakness. Some of us just didn’t think it was a disqualifying weakness.

I would also like to register my objection to the link to the League of the South website. (A Lincoln-Marx-Hitler connection? Please.) You’re a better man than that, aren’t you?

As though other political blogs represent fair and unvarnished opinion !

It is indeed quite a stretch to say that this represents the “state of the conservative blogs” – they are not exactly a monolithic organization. I consider myself right wing and i have read a lot of interesting pieces at PJM, that i agree with. But they are different from HotAir, Instapundit, RightWingNuthouse, Ace of Spades, LGF, Ed Driscoll, NRO etc etc in their own way.

Joe the Plumber is no journalist by any stretch of imagination. But you are all missing the point with PJTV sending this guy to report. Their claim is that they no longer trust any of the MSM coverage that they are ready to send even a non professional to a war zone.

You may agree or disagree on whether conservatives are right to be suspicious of MSM, but you miss the point that they simply dont trust their formulaic coverage. Or the notion that the MSM is not biased towards the Palestinian perspective.

What this does truly reflect is how partisan and divided this country truly is.

The problem, Daniel, is that PJM is giving its readers exactly what they want.

Pajamas Media is one of the larger conservative online operations, and this is one of their most public forays into sending out their own correspondents to report on events, so the limitations and flaws of this undertaking do say something about the quality of online journalism from the right. I took it for granted that conservative bloggers understood that their side was behind TPM and the rest when it came to doing investigative journalism and original reporting, and I think this episode illustrates the gap pretty well. Maybe it isn’t quite so important, but it is something that the “rightroots” should be thinking about very seriously.

Fwiw, I think your “Palinification” argument is much better.