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	<description>n. the principle of good order&#60;br /&#62;&#60;br /&#62; "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>By: sylvie_oshima</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2009/06/26/getting-radical/comment-page-1/#comment-33057</link>
		<dc:creator>sylvie_oshima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mousavi was running for the President&#039;s position...Rafsanjani is the power broker in Qom.  I suggest Krauthamer has no actual clue about what struggles are going on in Qom.
Qom is the gravity well of power in Iran.
The Assembly of Experts can remove Khameni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mousavi was running for the President&#8217;s position&#8230;Rafsanjani is the power broker in Qom.  I suggest Krauthamer has no actual clue about what struggles are going on in Qom.<br />
Qom is the gravity well of power in Iran.<br />
The Assembly of Experts can remove Khameni.</p>
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		<title>By: sylvie_oshima</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylvie_oshima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mousavi was running for the President&#039;s position...Rafsanjani is the power broker in Qom.  I suggest Krauthamer has no actual clue about &lt;a href=&quot;http://talkislam.info/2009/06/29/sowhy-should-mericans-be-interested/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what struggles are going on in Qom.&lt;/a&gt;
Qom is the gravity well of power in Iran.
The Assembly of Experts can remove Khameni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mousavi was running for the President&#8217;s position&#8230;Rafsanjani is the power broker in Qom.  I suggest Krauthamer has no actual clue about <a href="http://talkislam.info/2009/06/29/sowhy-should-mericans-be-interested/" rel="nofollow">what struggles are going on in Qom.</a><br />
Qom is the gravity well of power in Iran.<br />
The Assembly of Experts can remove Khameni.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2009/06/26/getting-radical/comment-page-1/#comment-33034</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conradg,
Thanks... It was an instance of my head hearing it one way &amp; my gut feeling it another. I&#039;m all in favor of the Iranians having the government they choose and us staying out of their way. Obama&#039;s witness statements are some of strong and supportive words on the subject coming from outside of Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conradg,<br />
Thanks&#8230; It was an instance of my head hearing it one way &amp; my gut feeling it another. I&#8217;m all in favor of the Iranians having the government they choose and us staying out of their way. Obama&#8217;s witness statements are some of strong and supportive words on the subject coming from outside of Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: conradg</title>
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		<dc:creator>conradg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

I&#039;m not sure why Obama&#039;s statement discredits the protesters, or even Mousavi. What Obama said is that, in relation to American international interests, such as Iran&#039;s nuclear program and support of international terror groups like Hizbollah, the two candidates aren&#039;t much different, and the US would have to pursue the same policies and negotiations towards either. It seems perfectly sound and true. It also puts pressure on Mousavi to clearly differentiate himself from Ahmadinejad on these kinds of issues, if he really does want to say that he will pursue different international policies. It&#039;s quite possible that a more democratic and just Iran will still continue to pursue policies that are against American interests and international stability. In which case, what have the protesters accomplished that actually helps America, or the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why Obama&#8217;s statement discredits the protesters, or even Mousavi. What Obama said is that, in relation to American international interests, such as Iran&#8217;s nuclear program and support of international terror groups like Hizbollah, the two candidates aren&#8217;t much different, and the US would have to pursue the same policies and negotiations towards either. It seems perfectly sound and true. It also puts pressure on Mousavi to clearly differentiate himself from Ahmadinejad on these kinds of issues, if he really does want to say that he will pursue different international policies. It&#8217;s quite possible that a more democratic and just Iran will still continue to pursue policies that are against American interests and international stability. In which case, what have the protesters accomplished that actually helps America, or the world?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2009/06/26/getting-radical/comment-page-1/#comment-33029</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...which is why Obama’s recognition of the policy similarities between Mousavi and Ahmadinejad remains one of the most appropriate, correct and potentially helpful things he has said in the last two weeks about Iran.&quot;

Thanks. I&#039;ve been impressed by President Obama&#039;s discernment in standing for the Iranian&#039;s human and civil rights without endorsing either candidate. But I was flummoxed when he said there wasn&#039;t much difference between the 2 candidates. For the reasons you describe, it probably is true, but to me, Obama&#039;s statement seemed like a punch in the stomach to people marching in the streets. It sounded like he was saying that their cause is meaningless. He is so precise in his statements that I thought he must have been tired &amp; made a mistake, meaning that it would make no difference to our foreign policy. Still it seemed extremely out of character. Even knowing he&#039;s wily, I didn&#039;t catch the reasoning. Now it makes much more sense. It surprises me how willing he is to take political hits when he decides to take a stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;which is why Obama’s recognition of the policy similarities between Mousavi and Ahmadinejad remains one of the most appropriate, correct and potentially helpful things he has said in the last two weeks about Iran.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks. I&#8217;ve been impressed by President Obama&#8217;s discernment in standing for the Iranian&#8217;s human and civil rights without endorsing either candidate. But I was flummoxed when he said there wasn&#8217;t much difference between the 2 candidates. For the reasons you describe, it probably is true, but to me, Obama&#8217;s statement seemed like a punch in the stomach to people marching in the streets. It sounded like he was saying that their cause is meaningless. He is so precise in his statements that I thought he must have been tired &amp; made a mistake, meaning that it would make no difference to our foreign policy. Still it seemed extremely out of character. Even knowing he&#8217;s wily, I didn&#8217;t catch the reasoning. Now it makes much more sense. It surprises me how willing he is to take political hits when he decides to take a stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conradg - You may be right that his ideal is a restoration of a pre-Supreme leader Republic but he has never said this.  At best he has been meaningfully ambiguous.  It is certainly possible that this is not his intention at all and that he merely wants votes to be counted and to be seen to be counted fairly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conradg &#8211; You may be right that his ideal is a restoration of a pre-Supreme leader Republic but he has never said this.  At best he has been meaningfully ambiguous.  It is certainly possible that this is not his intention at all and that he merely wants votes to be counted and to be seen to be counted fairly.</p>
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		<title>By: conradg</title>
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		<dc:creator>conradg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To give Mousavi some credit, even if he did wish to seriously change the Islamic Republic, he couldn&#039;t possibly advocate this without opening himself to charges of treason and betrayal. And even though his political stance at this point is one of trying to restore the legitimacy of the Islamic Revolution (lost by the stolen election), it&#039;s simply assumed that he also intends, once in power, to encourage a reform effort which would decrease clerical control (though not end it), such as by eliminating the singular role of the Supreme Leader, and instituting instead a council with less absolute powers. 

The original Islamic Revolution and the Republic instituted in 1979-80 did not include a Supreme Leader. That was a much latter innovation of Khomeini&#039;s, in 1988 I think, shortly before his death, to keep reformists from gaining power. So it stands to reason that if reformists regain power, one of the first things they will want to reform is the SP position. So when Mousavi is advocating a return to the original principles of the Islamic Revolution, he is arguing not for a return to the pre-election status quo, but to the pre-1988 status quo, even the general 1980 status quo. I think this is important to acknowledge when evaluating Mousavi&#039;s rhetoric about affirming the original principles of the Islamic Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give Mousavi some credit, even if he did wish to seriously change the Islamic Republic, he couldn&#8217;t possibly advocate this without opening himself to charges of treason and betrayal. And even though his political stance at this point is one of trying to restore the legitimacy of the Islamic Revolution (lost by the stolen election), it&#8217;s simply assumed that he also intends, once in power, to encourage a reform effort which would decrease clerical control (though not end it), such as by eliminating the singular role of the Supreme Leader, and instituting instead a council with less absolute powers. </p>
<p>The original Islamic Revolution and the Republic instituted in 1979-80 did not include a Supreme Leader. That was a much latter innovation of Khomeini&#8217;s, in 1988 I think, shortly before his death, to keep reformists from gaining power. So it stands to reason that if reformists regain power, one of the first things they will want to reform is the SP position. So when Mousavi is advocating a return to the original principles of the Islamic Revolution, he is arguing not for a return to the pre-election status quo, but to the pre-1988 status quo, even the general 1980 status quo. I think this is important to acknowledge when evaluating Mousavi&#8217;s rhetoric about affirming the original principles of the Islamic Republic.</p>
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